hummus Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 got this from the shell case blog More over I’ve been thinking about the Dark Angels. It’s quite telling that we’re on the cusp of the 42 Millennium, the Golden Throne is failing, and the fate of the Imperium hangs in the balance and there is a sudden emphasis being placed on the 1st Legion. The Dark Angels have always been a mysterious bunch and all the evidence suggests it is because of the betrayal of half the Legion during the Heresy. And although they bear those scars with great shame, the true cause of their secrecy is the realisation that came with capturing Luther and his eventual confession. The great secret that the Dark Angels keep is, whereas the Space Wolves are the Emperor’s executioners, the Dark Angels are or will be the executioners of the Emperor. From broken lips Luther told his captures that the Emperor was a true immortal, a being destined to be reborn for all eternity and by keeping him trapped within a shattered physical form humanity was preventing his rebirth and with it their very salvation. This secret was the Dark Angels’ alone to bear and with their stoicism they would see it done. Cypher’s quest to kill the Emperor is a well established part of the background, his motivations supposedly sinister. And wherever the lost son of The Lion makes planet fall the Dark Angels descend to allegedly bring him to justice. It’s no surprise to see Divination as one of the Dark Angel psyker traits for 6th edition. In the resulting engagement Cypher makes his escape and with each new appearance he gets closer and closer to Terra. The assumption is that the Dark Angels are trying to stop Cypher but I propose that they are trying to help him by covering his tracks and sowing misdirection as on the surface the Dark Angels appear to be doing little more than thwarting heretics. But think about it, Cypher is from a time when the Emperor was not a God – a truth all Space Marines hold – and so often times Cypher is doing little more than opening the eyes of those he comes into contact with. The Imperial Creed demands action is taken. The Dark Angels prosecute the campaign as far as they need to then withdraw. His escape is assisted by the fundamental and intentional conflict within the chapter structure. Battle brothers don’t know the true extent of the Dark Angels’ role in things to come, whereas company captains are initiated into the Deathwing and so, to a point, do. They accept the grim task ahead of them with the redoubtable determination we’ve come to expect from the First Legion. As a result the Dark Angels hamper their own efforts to capture Cypher and further turn the wheels of destiny towards the inevitable death of the Emperor. This isn’t to say that the Dark Angels are heretics or traitors. Far from it. Arguably only the Dark Angels and the Space Wolves see things for that they really are and the grim roles they must play. The Dark Angels know that the Wolves will be set upon them once their work is done. And probably deepens the resentment that runs between the two Chapters. Especially as the Wolves know they were powerless to change anything as for the Dark Angels to succeed they must fail in their most basic duty. To keep the Emperor safe. The Dark Angels understand that by allowing the Emperor’s shattered mortal form to die he can be reborn and will signal for the Primarchs to return and herald a new age of reclamation. Although I suspect that it’ll be The Lion himself that ends his father’s life as he was always destined to carry a terrible burden. Indeed there’s every likelihood that he saw this possible future which is why the weight of the Legion was so heavy on his shoulders. Combined with my note about the Tau ostensibly being anti-Chaos weapons it all seems to point quite strongly that humanity is on the brink of either destruction or redemption but it’ll come at a terrible price and its survival may come at the cost of the Imperium itself. This is purely speculation but it’ll be interesting to see where the new Dark Angel codex will be taken and whether or not the rumoured ‘Warhammer 41,000′ will ever come out and how that follows on but I suspect a lot of questions will be answered in the coming months. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254580-some-interesting-fluff-ideas/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kewl Imp Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 So to break down the text, the corpse on the Golden Throne needs to die and the Dark Angels are accidentally or purposely helping Cypher complete this task. Although the Chapter continues to hunt the fallen, Cypher is trying to do the right thing and isn't technically a heretic or traitor, but rather the true patriot. Is that a good summation? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254580-some-interesting-fluff-ideas/#findComment-3093281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Sounds almost like it should be a plot point from MGS. :thanks: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254580-some-interesting-fluff-ideas/#findComment-3093282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus-Alaska Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I actually like this........ I will be surrendering myself to the Interrogator-chaplains and Librarians shortly! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254580-some-interesting-fluff-ideas/#findComment-3093326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Whilst it makes a good theory and does stand up to a certain amount of scrutiny, I consider it just a flight of fancy of one whom wants the Dark Angels to be #1 in more than just Legion order. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254580-some-interesting-fluff-ideas/#findComment-3093327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwing70 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 well one can wonder... Cypher *has* been captured by the Dark Angels on several occasions only to have somehow escaped his cell/dissapeared from custody... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254580-some-interesting-fluff-ideas/#findComment-3093329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Anders Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I also sorta like this..................... Right behind you furioso-prime. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254580-some-interesting-fluff-ideas/#findComment-3093524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Nemiel Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 As much as i LOVE to speculate stuff like this, i highly doubt GW will touch our lets say: "corefluff"...i may be wrong but i cant think of any significant change since 2nd edition? Also your explanation that the emperor wasnt a god....sure he denied any worshipping of his person, all was science and enlightment...he had damn good reason to do so! He may not been a god, but for any human he is simply godlike...simply the fact that he is humans most potent psyker basically makes him godlike! And since he therefore has great knowledge of the warp he MUST have know about the chaos gods...and being prayed to by GAZILLIONS of human would sure wake up the "true" gods! Im not sure about the following, feel free to correct me....or burn me, or send me to the cellars!:P While creating the primarchs he made a deal(somehow) with the chaos gods, for the power he needed to finish the project...but he tricked them so he didnt stand true to his bargain! As a result they scattered the primarchs over the galaxy etc... Since you all may know its basically impossible to trick the ruinous powers, that can tell you a thing or two about the emperor! And dont forget: "The Emperor protects!"...its weird, but its working somehow in the HH novels! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254580-some-interesting-fluff-ideas/#findComment-3093656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Anders Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 But wouldn't that also be a change to the core Fluff? I don't remember seeing that any where. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254580-some-interesting-fluff-ideas/#findComment-3093668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Interesting but if i had a say on it, i would say no. It would nullify our dark qualities and make us suddenly the misunderstood good guys of 40k. I prefer my blind but honest, brooding, phlegmatic chapter as it is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254580-some-interesting-fluff-ideas/#findComment-3094403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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