Antarius Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 So, I was staring at my five drop pods and thought to myself "Hmm, maybe I should think up a way to use these for both my Marine armies". The thing is, I don't want to spend a fortune and a lot of storage space on an additional bunch of pods if I can help it -on the other hand, I don't want my pods to look silly or "cheap" so to speak. So, the question is, does anyone have ideas and possible fluff justification for a colour scheme that might work for both Imperial Fist and Dark Angel pods? I was thinking of just slapping on some Aquilas and not have any chapter specific icons and perhaps adding a lot of atmospheric scorching but is it feasible? Or is it just silly? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
kataklysm Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Not a silly idea at all. My whole view of the fluff of Marine equipment vs. Marine vehicles is thus: I never saw the reason to paint an atmospheric entry vehicle, due to scorching, damage from the eventual touchdown, ease of maintinence (removing hatches and access panels that are covered in a layer of paint is a pain), ect. Now a thunderhawk I can somewhat understand having the chapters livery painted on, being an ancient and revered war machine and all. Same goes with tanks, land speeders, ect. So Ideas for the actual painjob: -Like you said, slap some mo-fudging aquillas on there! -Basecoat in a scorched boltgun me...er.. led-belcher? -Maybe you also can magnetize some chapter symbols and slap the correlating symbol on before the game. -Remember that drop pods hurtle hundreds of miles and hour straight down from upper atmosphere of a planet, taking fire from anti-aircraft weapons and then after all that they just barely slow down enough to not explode when they hammer into the ground. So battle damage is a must!! hope this helps, -kata Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/#findComment-3097532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Well... if I asked you if you wanted to paint your tanks so that they could work for both armies you'd probably say that's impossible right? You're pretty much asking just that here - no amount of scorching and aquilas is going to provide a paint scheme suitable for IFs and DAs. Though I'd say use aquilas anyway as I find the chapter symbols a bit cheesy. Maybe if you have old school IFs with black trims and large areas of black as a secondary colour on their vehicles then you could paint them black (Ravenwing for DA) but I've no idea how you've painted your models. Sorry to say this and I understand your thinking (and pain) but I think this idea isn't going to happen without some serious stretching as to defy the whole point... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/#findComment-3097609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antarius Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share Posted June 27, 2012 Well, I'm not so much asking for a scheme that looks like both chapters would use it for their livery. It's more in line with Kataklysm's thinking on the subject; why would Marines paint their drop pods in the first place? I mean, Tanks make perfect sense to me, but drop pods are basically disposable cans being fired through the atmosphere. So, from a certain standpoint I think it makes more sense to have them in a more generic colour scheme. So, my question really is: what would a "generic" drop pod look like, assuming it wasn't painted in the chapter's colours. Would it be Grey? Black? Metal? That being said, I might just end up being a good chump and fork out the money for 4-5 extra pods. It just feels a bit silly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/#findComment-3097626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrywalker Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 i agree with kataklysm, paint them bare metal, this will be a challenge to make them look good however. I would imagine a sort of brushed steel look, nothing too shiny. oh and LOTS of scorching. maybe do the scorching at an angle, think about how they enter the atmosphere and where the scorching would actually be. To pull off the no paint idea then there has to be lots of "use" painted on with scorching and damage, try working out in your head a mini story for each, just enough to know that drop pod A fell through quite a thin atmosphere, took three lascannon shots in quick succession from a flyer of some sort and then struck a building before it landed. Then you can paint accordingly, relatively low scorching, a line of three blast marks and dents or chips on one corner. post photos when your done Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/#findComment-3097702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Even if you start off with a nice fresh white paintjob, what it looks like when it reaches the ground is this: http://images.travelpod.com/users/mefox13/1.1268440223.apollo-capsule.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/#findComment-3097703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fury Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 I think they should be painted and not just bare metal. The military always paints any metal and greases any moving part. If drop pods were just hanging out on cruisers for their chance to be deployed, they would be maintained with paint and grease until that day. Chapter colors would be the most abundant paint color available, so why not paint the pod in that color too. For your situation though, I'd totally paint them a neutral color and use them for both armies. Maybe a nice low visability navy grey. Helps to protect them from incoming fire during entry and will show up all the black burnt marks and metal showing through for your painting project, compared to just black which is hard to shade and highlight easily. Plus fluff wise, maybe the marines got a ride from an Imperial Navy vessel and it's not even a chapter drop pod. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/#findComment-3097842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Codex Grey. The paint was so named because back in RT that was the colour marine vehicles were supposed to be painted according to the Codex Astartes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/#findComment-3098091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker8 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 People fail to miss the one thing SM use to their full advantage. The effect their very presence has on their enemies. One of the first signs of that presence will be drop pods bareling the colors of that chapter. Also remeber this is a game set in a fictional universe and time line, they just may have a paint that does not burn durring re entry. I give you great deference trying to do your pods so they'll be usable with different armies, I understand the reasoning. But to me I prefer the uniformity and psycholigical effect showing the colors has. If you want generic though so they don;t look out of place between the two armies I'd go with a light grey or industrial equipment color, bare metal flys in the face of preservation of the pods durring transport where exposure to moisture and oxegen will cause corrosion on un protected metals. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/#findComment-3098131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seleucus Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 As I have over a dozen SM armies, I'm 'B***ered if I am going to buy 4-5 drop pods for each of them! I've gone for the codex grey/bolt metal/scorched approach, with magnetised icons for each chapter. No complaints from opponents so far! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/#findComment-3100078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhg033 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 As I have over a dozen SM armies, I'm 'B***ered if I am going to buy 4-5 drop pods for each of them! my sentiments exactly! Am doing this with my AoV/flesh tearers to share the vehicles. basic black paint job with a few areas can magentise doors etcs and add removable symbols. makes for a more interesting modelling and painting project too to make them neutral enough to use for each but have enough similarity to standard colour schemes to still fit the armies. i vote for silver or black for the pods with magentic icons/symbols Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/#findComment-3100237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannus Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Codex Grey. The paint was so named because back in RT that was the colour marine vehicles were supposed to be painted according to the Codex Astartes. DING! DING! DING! We have a winner! If you want a generic *cough*Codex*cough* color for your pods - this is the one! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/#findComment-3100803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antarius Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 Thanks for all your replies guys :P I'm still mulling it over, as my stupid brain still kinda feels the "need" to just buy an entire set for each army. However your Codex Grey/industrial grey suggestions are well taken and the picture of the real-life capsule really got me thinking on how to do scorching/damage and so on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/#findComment-3106886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostclaw222 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 I'm going to go one step further, because this is an idea I had mulled for my Wolves, not because I wanted to repurpose their pods for another army, but because of this thought: a drop pod is fired into an atmosphere, shot to hell and back by AAA, crashes into the surface, and disgorges its cargo into a warzone, after which it is likely used as cover. Drop pods probably are written off after first use. Ergo, they're disposable. Ergo, the chapters are going to want a bunch of them. I can see them being bare ceramite and adamantium, scorched and marked by weapons-fire. My Great Company's going to have a pod for most of its units, so this isn't me trying to save a buck. For me, it's purpose, design, and economic philosophy of the chapter, not the modeler. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/#findComment-3113896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannus Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Drop pods probably are written off after first use. Ergo, they're disposable. What if I were to tell you that your assumption is wrong and this is not the case? That they are not disposable, but each one that survives is lovingly reworked, restored and repainted for the next assault? Would this change your view? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/#findComment-3116527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honda Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 My vote would be for the Codex Grey (or equivalent). Actually, I might do a darker grey so that I could use lighter colors on the scorching, but that's me. I also think the magnetizing of chapter symbols is a win. Cheers, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/#findComment-3116535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteraven17708 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 navy grey or grey primer with scorched entry marks and magnatized icons will also get my vote. Personally I will have my pods painted in my chapter colors but I have the luxury of one chapter :confused: If I decide to add to my chapter count before I get to painting my pod.... I will most likely steal this idea Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/#findComment-3117412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kataklysm Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 whiteraven17708 If I decide to add to my chapter count before I get to painting my pod.... I will most likely steal this idea Honda I also think the magnetizing of chapter symbols is a win. Thanks for the kudos guys. I created this method one day while modelling at my local flgs. Most of the cheaper regulars now use it as well. :confused: -kata Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/#findComment-3117419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennisBall Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 People fail to miss the one thing SM use to their full advantage. The effect their very presence has on their enemies. One of the first signs of that presence will be drop pods bareling the colors of that chapter. Except they're falling so fast (to avoid being hit) as to be impossible to see any chapter colours or icons until they're on the ground. At this point the shock wave followed by the marines themselves would be far more impressive and unsettling than any colour the pods may be painted. I like the idea that the pods are a neutral colour. Bullets are not painted in chapter colours, there's no point. Pods are so fast that they'd appear as streaks in the sky. Thinking about it, land speeder storms would probably be painted in camouflage to better suit its role with the scouts. Not much point in having your scouts with their camo capes being delivered by a brightly painted bus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/#findComment-3121652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I was going to do the same thing as I have a codex force and SW force. I was going to make them "Imperial" vs signs of the chapter. Don't need to buy another set of pods. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/#findComment-3121665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sceadwe Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Not sure if it would work (It's been a while since I built mine), but how about you buy 1 extra pod? That gives you 5 fins and 5 doors. Paint your pods in a bare metal/scorched/battered scheme. The extra fins/doors get the same treatment, but each has a few shreds of the chapter colour on them. Throw in some magnets and you have your pods, looking like they have been through hell, but also have some of your chapters colours on them where the paint hasn't totally burned it away. Might not be practical, but I figured I would mention it anyway. I did have another idea, but as soon as I typed it out I thought, 'don't do it, it will end up being ridiculed and/or sigged' Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/#findComment-3127862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt. Saul Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Why hasn't anybody suggested using a Mechanicus colour scheme? I mean think about it - the motor pool is maintained by techmarines, servitors, etc., we paint our techmarines in Mars red; the pilots of the flyers are techmarines. It'd be perfectly logical for a Land Raider to be painted Mechanicus red, with attending techmarine crew. A drop pod? Naturally! Especially if it's from a crusade force. I'd paint them as Mechanicus kickaround pods. Why not? The techmarines maintain them; and they seem to keep a lot of red paint around. I'd be pretty proud of it if I was responsible for a drop pod. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/#findComment-3129856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Forge Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Why hasn't anybody suggested using a Mechanicus colour scheme? That's pretty much what I was thinking when I saw the post-title too; or if you don't want to paint them full-Mechanicus colours just go for basic metals and hazard symbols. Things like dark-metal for most parts, the black/yellow stripes along the parts that are going to be moved or lowered. Then just do as the others have suggested, slap on some magnetized chapter symbols. Then just "scorch" and "weather" it somewhat so that it looks like it's been through a few atmospheres and retrieved a couple of times; then Bob's your Uncle and Fannie's your Fabricator! That's what I'm considering for mine; as I've got 6 Dreads ready to be painted and seriously tempted to use my next pay-bonus on 6 of those lovely Forgeworld Dread-Pods. They just... amaze me. Good luck with the project! edit: Just saw someone else's drop pod on this forum in the "Liber Astertes Miniatures gallery. This sort of thing could be used by multiple chapters: hope it's cool to link galleries. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...&album=2185 Specifically this picture: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads..._2185_21586.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/#findComment-3134196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corai Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 just to add my voice to the 'go for it' crowd, in the Ultramarines movie IIRC the strike cruiser is not actually painted ultramarine blue, but seems to be some neutral grey/scoreched metal etc, so it is possible the fleet are not maintained in the same pretty colours as the ground troops (no need to scare your enemy with your heraldry in space where you should be fighting over such vast distances its unlikely they will even be able to see you). If the pods are fired from the ships, they could quite easily be in the same colours as the ships Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254790-possible-generic-drop-pod-colours/#findComment-3134641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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