Marmande Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Logan's Axe is described as a Frost Blade in the codex, and it wasn't addressed in the FAQ. So I guess he keeps the attacks at-initiative? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3101799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Looks like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3101811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 "Page 29 – Lone Wolves, A Glorious Death.Replace the last two sentences with: “Furthermore, in missions that award Victory Points for each enemy unit that has been completely destroyed, a Lone Wolf does not concede a Victory Point if he dies in battle. Instead, to represent his failure to meet a spectacular end, a Lone Wolf awards a Victory Point in such a mission if he survives until the end of the game!”" The wording is confusing me a bit here, but it sounds like, so long as the lone wolf can kill a whole unit his living will be a positive. Basically, he goes forth and tries to die, instead he finds great glory and returns a hero, likely added into the Wolf Guard, as the lore suggests. Yeah, saw that. I find it quite odd. They must have messed it up or something. Another note, we're the only army who can split fire with as many models as we want, unless they FAQ that. And Marm, he wouldn't attack at initiative because the weapon is an axe. But it could be reasoned that since all the codex says is blade, you could use it as a power sword. Hopefully we'll get an FAQ or something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3101813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 have some the old rulings disappeared? I cant find the Njal can only use his tempest powers when going first rule and quick comparison old and new some the things in black do read the same Is this poor eye sight or have they unnerfed him Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3101828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 And Marm, he wouldn't attack at initiative because the weapon is an axe. But it could be reasoned that since all the codex says is blade, you could use it as a power sword. Hopefully we'll get an FAQ or something. Of course he would. Codex says Morkai can be used as a frost blade. FAQ says Frost Blades are AP3. Therefore its at intiative. I suspect they won't FAQ it, other wise it would completely invalidate Morkai's special abilities. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3101843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 From my view, we weren't boned at all really with the FAQ. Game on! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3101866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrne Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 It seems like our runepriests, runeweapons do dispell within 24". :P and if we read "runeweapons" under rune priest, it say that it can be a staff. What will that be, an axe? Oh, on another point. our runic armour seem sweet :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3101959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrne Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Oh, another thing, is it true, that if we have "One" modell with scout, we can outflank with that unit? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3101974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrne Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 My edit, seem to go back to the first post all the time. Just wanted to say Saga of the hunter seem to be cool in the future :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3101984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. A. K. Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Reading the SW FAQ you can find: "You'll also find that some of the weapons in this Codex are written out longhand, rather than using the weapon profile in the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook. Don't worry -These are functionally identical, unless noticed otherwise in this document." So, missile launchers have now Flakk ammo, I didin't found nothing about to using the missile launchers only with frag or krak in this document. That is the exact part I saw as well and that is the way I'm going to play it. without a flyer in our list this is the only way we can even effectively shoot at flyers anyway, without allies or fortifications (which I don't want to to 'forced' to use). G Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3102027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlk Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Saga of the Hunter gives an IC the ability to Outflank, doesn't it? And I don't think any IC confers that to a unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3102055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theis Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Reading the SW FAQ you can find: "You'll also find that some of the weapons in this Codex are written out longhand, rather than using the weapon profile in the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook. Don't worry -These are functionally identical, unless noticed otherwise in this document." So, missile launchers have now Flakk ammo, I didin't found nothing about to using the missile launchers only with frag or krak in this document. That is the exact part I saw as well and that is the way I'm going to play it. without a flyer in our list this is the only way we can even effectively shoot at flyers anyway, without allies or fortifications (which I don't want to to 'forced' to use). G I'm told (sitting at work atm) that page 57 of the new brb covers this. Summarized, ''all ML have krak and frag as normal. Some have the option to upgrade to skyfire" So, unless it says we get skyfire specifically, which it doesn't, I'm interpreting it as we don't. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3102086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Reading the SW FAQ you can find: "You'll also find that some of the weapons in this Codex are written out longhand, rather than using the weapon profile in the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook. Don't worry -These are functionally identical, unless noticed otherwise in this document." So, missile launchers have now Flakk ammo, I didin't found nothing about to using the missile launchers only with frag or krak in this document. That is the exact part I saw as well and that is the way I'm going to play it. without a flyer in our list this is the only way we can even effectively shoot at flyers anyway, without allies or fortifications (which I don't want to to 'forced' to use). G I think its just wishful thinking the brb says its a upgrade and theres no option for that upgrade in our codex Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3102089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrne Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Saga of the Hunter gives an IC the ability to Outflank, doesn't it? And I don't think any IC confers that to a unit. The way I see it, it say, if one model have it. the unit gains it, same with stuborn. = Arjak Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3102091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlk Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Saga of the Hunter gives an IC the ability to Outflank, doesn't it? And I don't think any IC confers that to a unit. The way I see it, it say, if one model have it. the unit gains it, same with stuborn. = Arjak "Unless specified in the rule itself (as in the Stubborn special rule), the unit's special rules are not conferred upon the Independent Character, and the Independent Character's special rules are not conferred upon the unit." p. 39 Sorry, buddy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3102098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramora Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 may be missing something but I looks like Wolf priest confer fearless onto the unit they join regardless if it is a SW unit or not. All the other marine FAQs state that the special rule confering fearless onto attached units only works on units taken from the same codex. i.e. BA Chaplains give fearles only to BA units. C:SP Chaps only give fearless to C:SP units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3102302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlk Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 may be missing something but I looks like Wolf priest confer fearless onto the unit they join regardless if it is a sSW unit or not. All the other marine FAQs state that the special rule confering fearless onto attached units only works on units taken from the same codex. i.e. BA Chaplains give fearles only to BA units. C:SP Chaps only give fearless to C:SP units. may be missing something but I looks like Wolf priest confer fearless onto the unit they join regardless if it is a sSW unit or not. All the other marine FAQs state that the special rule confering fearless onto attached units only works on units taken from the same codex. i.e. BA Chaplains give fearles only to BA units. C:SP Chaps only give fearless to C:SP units. Our Wolf Priests probably didn't get as much attention (fortunately!), because we seem to be one of the few SM chapters (if not the only one) whose Chaplain equivalent keeps a "power weapon" instead of a pre-set "power maul". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3102306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrne Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Saga of the Hunter gives an IC the ability to Outflank, doesn't it? And I don't think any IC confers that to a unit. The way I see it, it say, if one model have it. the unit gains it, same with stuborn. = Arjak "Unless specified in the rule itself (as in the Stubborn special rule), the unit's special rules are not conferred upon the Independent Character, and the Independent Character's special rules are not conferred upon the unit." p. 39 Sorry, buddy. Well as I see it, it say on page 40: "at least one model with this special rule..." same with stubborn. dont see how you read it. ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3102336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khine Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 have some the old rulings disappeared? I cant find the Njal can only use his tempest powers when going first rule and quick comparison old and new some the things in black do read the same Is this poor eye sight or have they unnerfed him i also noticed they took out the .. "Frost blade/axe bonuses don't stack" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3102422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 have some the old rulings disappeared? I cant find the Njal can only use his tempest powers when going first rule and quick comparison old and new some the things in black do read the same Is this poor eye sight or have they unnerfed him i also noticed they took out the .. "Frost blade/axe bonuses don't stack" Dual frost blades for bonus attack and +2 strength? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3102429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I dont think its +2 Strength, just +1 attack. My Helbrecht-wing approves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3102451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlk Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Saga of the Hunter gives an IC the ability to Outflank, doesn't it? And I don't think any IC confers that to a unit. The way I see it, it say, if one model have it. the unit gains it, same with stuborn. = Arjak "Unless specified in the rule itself (as in the Stubborn special rule), the unit's special rules are not conferred upon the Independent Character, and the Independent Character's special rules are not conferred upon the unit." p. 39 Sorry, buddy. Well as I see it, it say on page 40: "at least one model with this special rule..." same with stubborn. dont see how you read it. ? As it's written. Unless the special rule clearly states that it is conferred by a single model to the unit he is in/with, it only applies to the model. The Stubborn special rule states that any unit containing a model with the Stubborn special rule takes Morale and Leadership tests without any negative modifiers. The Outflank special rule doesn't mention that it is conferred to the unit at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3103057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbrow II Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 It seems like our runepriests, runeweapons do dispell within 24". smile.gif and if we read "runeweapons" under rune priest, it say that it can be a staff. What will that be, an axe? So our RP's weapons aren't the usual Force Weapons (Sword, Axe, Stave) but have their own rules (wound Daemons on 2+) and so are dealt with under unusual FW so they stay as AP 3 force weapons, correct? Unless the special rule clearly states that it is conferred by a single model to the unit he is in/with, it only applies to the model. The Stubborn special rule states that any unit containing a model with the Stubborn special rule takes Morale and Leadership tests without any negative modifiers. So Arjac makes a unit he joins Stubborn, now? Precision Strikes with his Hammer, you say? Look Out, Sir rolls, you say? Nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3103130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlk Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Unless the special rule clearly states that it is conferred by a single model to the unit he is in/with, it only applies to the model. The Stubborn special rule states that any unit containing a model with the Stubborn special rule takes Morale and Leadership tests without any negative modifiers. So Arjac makes a unit he joins Stubborn, now? Precision Strikes with his Hammer, you say? Look Out, Sir rolls, you say? Nice. I believe he STILL makes the unit he joins Stubborn. And yes, of course he is still an absolute beast, albeit expensive. The only downside is, that the opponent will be able to aim attacks directly at him in challenges. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3103141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbrow II Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 The only downside is, that the opponent will be able to aim attacks directly at him in challenges. Oh no. That's really bad. Unless he can be shielded from enemy attacks, somehow. Maybe Storm Shielded, perhaps? That's another reason to keep Arjac with a GH unit with a Wolf Banner. When he's in a challenge he's got re-rolls to hit and thanks to the Banner re-rolls to wound, re-rolls to his armour save and re-rolls to have of his failed Invul saves. I do so love the bastard offspring of Thor and Captain America. It's good to be the King. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254958-6ed-faq-are-here-for-space-wolves/page/2/#findComment-3103176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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