Azekai Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Hello degenerates, with positioning being so gosh-darn important in 6th ed, Lash of Submission sounds like it is going to be ungodly amazing. Being able to pull special weapons troopers out into the line of fire or snipe that powerfist (look out, sir notwithstanding) seems incredibly powerful. Am I missing something here or short of a nerf is Lash going to be the end-all be all psychic power? Thoughts? Rebuttals? Maddened rants concerning the glory that will belong to Slaanesh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanger Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Aside from the 6+ Deny the Witch that everyone gets, I don't see what would change regarding Lash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted July 1, 2012 Author Share Posted July 1, 2012 Aside from the 6+ Deny the Witch that everyone gets, I don't see what would change regarding Lash. Since wound allocation is completely different in 6th, you use lash to rearrange their squad so that they have their most valuable members (powerfists, thunderhammers, special weapons, w/e) closer to the shooters coming from your army. Make their best guys their 'front rank' to get mowed down first. Seems amazing, since a 6+ is hardly a reliable means of stopping it and DPs are quite accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makesomenoise Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 I'll be taking psychic scream instead. Lash is still going to be epic don't get me wrong, but i am less worrried about it in most games and would rather have a terminator killer option. Terminators are a serious problem now, plasma / melta/ powerfist? Not alot of normal ways to down them, power weapons are useless lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Psychic scream? Is that one of the random powers? Yes Lash seems as if it's gotten a bit better now. Doesn't help a whole lot with terminators true, just keep lashing them back until you figure out a way to deal with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makesomenoise Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Telepathy primaris power (you can allways get it, no roll needed) Psychic shooting attack, roll 3d6. Minus targets ld, they take that many wounds w/o cover or armour. Potentially devistating vs, anything, no need to roll for wounds. It has the potential to do nothing or wreck a squad. But on avg shoud come out at 10.5 so meh vs low ld troops it's scary. I may grab lash also, hey ya never know what you'll need to deal with lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted July 2, 2012 Author Share Posted July 2, 2012 Not a lot of ways to deal with termies? Obvious choice seems to be Daemon Princes. AP 2 at Slaanesh's high Initiative. That should sort them out. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makesomenoise Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 I've got a 1750 coming up and am using a slaaneshi dp w/ screech and a screech sorcerer (put dp in swoop and beat the board.) So i'm not to worried about the termies for me personally, but pw's are no longer viable against them making power fists more desirable lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerrai Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Cant swoop with the Chaos Marine prince, only the daemon prince with flight. As the CSM prince is a jump monstrous creature.. not a flying one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makesomenoise Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Figured as much personally, so I asked the guy at our store about it yesterday. They rule the Dp's are flying monstrous until otherwise stated by GW as both daemons had identical rules pre 6th ed. So i'm good for it for now =P at least until the tournament comes up as I allready know what the decision will be for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmurph Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Unfortunately the FAQs address this. Jump MC != Flying MC. CSM get hosed. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makesomenoise Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Oh I agree, the FAQ seems very straight forward, i think they are ruling in the "spirit of fairness" at the shop. I've personally revised my list to simply remove the DP as I am not comfortable with a mercy ruling wheather it favors me or not. I play emperor's children because I love them not because they are epic on the table, i'd rather my wins to insult the ego of my opponents knowing that i've beaten them with an "unplayable" army. On the topic of lash, i'm still undecided. I'm thinking psychic shreik will be the slaaneshi go to for cost effectiveness but I still see an important role for lash in assault units of the right make up. It should still be effective using a daemon prince also but with the daemon prince being left behind on the flyer market I feel it will just be a reiteration of the same old trick. Adding it's uses to the potential for negation/ backfire I just can't see it being as popular as it was pre 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricBasser Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Just read this on another forum. What about using Lash to make things ontop of something fall. Then taking fall damage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 That's an interesting question really! It all depends on how the wording of the falling thingy is in the rulebook. I'm at work so I don't have it with me and can't check atm...but since you could make jump infantry take dangerous terrain tests with it before, then why not? So far my own experiences with the screech is rather underwhelming... It's probably because I've only faced things with Ld 9-10(damn mob rule and/or marines/necrons) so far, but lash seems like the better spell, especially if you are aiming to assault(oh yes, the dangerous enemy char suddenly finds himself outside 2" of any one in cc when it's his I-step! Hahahha) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moap Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 The best way to take down terminators for me has been weight of fire since codex: Space Marines came out for 5th. The possibility of them taking storm shields to make my ap2 weapons practically useless against them means you need a new way to fight em. They aren't particularly fast and aren't particularly tough, 6 wounds to a 40 point model isn't that wasteful as it sounds. Henceforth, I shall use Lash because it is amazing and lets you do anything. Throw down two daemon princes with it and some allied daemons and you can move a unit on average around 20 inches a turn. You just can't buy that kind of fun Oh wait- Yes you can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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