Morticon Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Okay, so purposely contentious title, for sure :D But, Hear me out! While many people regarded Meph as the 5th ed. auto-include... Im of the belief that Corbulo Bullet Catcher Mc Awesome-sauce (that's his full name yeh?) is going to be the new auto-include in lists. FNP on 2+ that can be taken against anything barring ID weapons. IC status, so can challenge. IC status so can make use of IC Look Out Sir! Never mind storm shields, BA termies are going to carry Corbulo to battle on their right arms! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezkh Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I tried this last night (well, Corbulo was front and centre of a Tactical squad) ran into a problem. Take a hit from a Missile Launcher, or Lascannon - fail the 2+ LOS Roll...Dead Corbulo :D Worse, the unit gets hit by a Battlecannon - good luck passing ~6 LOS rolls without rolling that 1 :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3102578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 i've used corbs in nearly every game i've played since the new dex <_< nothing is gonna change there! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3102618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 For me the issue is the closest dead rule. I want Corbulo up front to take hits. But I don't want to have to apply lascannons and the like to him. So positioning is huge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3102646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leksington Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 He seems like an amazing value, but I worry that he is slow. I don't know how many bona fide foot sloggers I plan to have in my lists outside of Devs and DC. And he would be something of a waste in either of those. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3102659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMac Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 He seems like an amazing value, but I worry that he is slow. I don't know how many bona fide foot sloggers I plan to have in my lists outside of Devs and DC. And he would be something of a waste in either of those. Drop pods. Drop pod lists got very good in 6th IMO, especially with overwatch. Assault marines get them for free! Honestly, devs got really good too. With all the flyers around in 6th ed, which as you know will be everywhere, having the skyfire rule will be a must IMO. And our codex does have them the cheapest of all marine codices (barring wolves). Back to Corbulo, he is definitely a beast in this edition, but as JamesI pointed out, and as Meph was considered the same way in 5th, it is how you use him will be dependent on his performance. Positioning in 6th will be THE tactical part of the game. Everything else will be random, even charges for crying out loud! If you can master how to position him, you can make him an outstanding unit. On that note, I think the game will slow down drastically with all this pre-measurement and emphasis on positioning. Introducing allies and fortifications kind of killed the competitive atmosphere. These are my first impressions of 6th ed so far. I hope it turns out for the best... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3102931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 He seems like an amazing value, but I worry that he is slow. I don't know how many bona fide foot sloggers I plan to have in my lists outside of Devs and DC. And he would be something of a waste in either of those. I'm going to put him in a 10 man blob of tac termies, the same unit that got a regular termie priest in 5th. Now that there is limit on reserves I won't need the TDA on the priest for deployment. You know what I think is going to be even more popular? Characters on bikes. No ID for anything but S10 hits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3102962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMac Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 You know what I think is going to be even more popular?Characters on bikes. No ID for anything but S10 hits. That ID on S10 only helps their FNP rolls too! Blood Rodeo is going to be popular IMO. Although, I was thinking we'll probably see more Manticores in this edition too. S10 is going to be huge in 6th ed, especially large blast S10. The new large blast rules make manticores worth it now. They will pwn mech face and infantry alike. Thinking that way has led me to believe disruptive units will be good in 6th ed. VV are the only unit I can think of now that can charge of a reserve roll, and we have the best kind of VV out there! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3103610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glendor Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 One of the problems I always had with attack bikes were that they got shot down by lascanons or dark lances etc... Now though they seem extremely resilient and waay better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3103726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Bloodglaive Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Never forget look out sir. Any hit on an independent character that you don't want to have to make a save for you can just fob it off on another squad member on a 2+. Corbulo with a squad of terminators. Plasma goes on Corbulo, he saves on a 2+. Krak missile hits Corbulo, 2+ you pass it off to a terminator so he can save it with his 2+. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3104174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahouth Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Never forget look out sir. Any hit on an independent character that you don't want to have to make a save for you can just fob it off on another squad member on a 2+. Corbulo with a squad of terminators. Plasma goes on Corbulo, he saves on a 2+. Krak missile hits Corbulo, 2+ you pass it off to a terminator so he can save it with his 2+. And if somehow that fails, he still has a reroll. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3104181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venemox Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 I'm thinking Corbs and Tycho are my new leaders. Too bad for Random Unnamed Librarians One and Two. Especially since I made the 'mistake' of modeling them with a Force Stave and a Force Axe. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3104191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
igotsmeakabob!! Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Too bad for Random Unnamed Librarians One and Two. Especially since I made the 'mistake' of modeling them with a Force Stave and a Force Axe. :) Just realized that both of my fully painted librarians, one 2e/3e PA libby with a helm, and my converted TA/SS Calistarius libby, have axes. What do staves count as? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3106363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahouth Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Too bad for Random Unnamed Librarians One and Two. Especially since I made the 'mistake' of modeling them with a Force Stave and a Force Axe. :) Just realized that both of my fully painted librarians, one 2e/3e PA libby with a helm, and my converted TA/SS Calistarius libby, have axes. What do staves count as? They count as power mauls as you can see here Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3106412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 I can now safely. Say after my first BA game of 6th that I will almost never be without Corbulo. In my game last night he went toe to toe with a hivetyrant for 6 combat phases. Nuts. The ability of him to hear hold up super characters that don't instant death him is nuts-which also makes me really fear the new epidemus lists that may come out. (fnp3+) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3109956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 It really boggles me how the opponent wouldn't be able to ID him with S8+ before he can be too useful.. But, that said, I'll build and paint one myself. Question: Where can I find suitable grail bits? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3109977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 It really boggles me how the opponent wouldn't be able to ID him with S8+ before he can be too useful.. *FACE PALM ! We forgot about the smash rule that he could have used! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3109984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodReavers Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I'm curious about the "Look out Sir!" rule. It says "when a wound (or unsaved wound) is allocated to one of your characters".. and you know the rest. I'm assuming that a character can only get an unsaved wound allocated to them if they have the same armor save as the unit and you rolled all at once. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3110000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 I'm curious about the "Look out Sir!" rule. It says "when a wound (or unsaved wound) is allocated to one of your characters".. and you know the rest. I'm assuming that a character can only get an unsaved wound allocated to them if they have the same armor save as the unit and you rolled all at once. Or if you purposely allocate a wound to them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3110009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorre Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 ....... Yeah smash woulda done it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3110022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahouth Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 ....... Yeah smash woulda done it! What's smash? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3110029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makkeru Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 ....... Yeah smash woulda done it! What's smash? Double strength but 1/2 the attacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3110078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahouth Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 ....... Yeah smash woulda done it! What's smash? Double strength but 1/2 the attacks. LOL Who can use it and how? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3110564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Lorenzo Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Hi all, I'm a new BA player and in gearing up for my first game (in two weeks vs. Ultramarines), I've had the timeless dilemma of trying to figure out what to bring. This thread has me sold on toting along a Corbulo, but I'm not sure how to build him into my list which is, at this point, still in my head and highly flexible. I'm thinking two Vindies as the heavy support, Corbulo somewhere on the frontlines with Rhino taxi and some form of footslogging ASM or tac. Or buy some termies (assault or guns?) and scoot them in a Land Raider. Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3110638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthanor Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Any MC in CC, it is there to compensate for the loss of the extra D6 for armor penetration. And I guess for dealing with silly things like Corbulo when your Trygon is S6. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255009-is-corbulo-the-new-mephiston/#findComment-3110642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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