Justin2008 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Hello all, this is my first tactical squad and i thought id post it up here for some comments ;) My chapter is going to be a successor to the Salamanders (hence the green and black) and please note im limited to the variety of paints at the moment as they came with the army bundle i brought. so far me and a friend have come up with either Cinder Drakes or Ember Wyrms, but if anyone would like to suggest any, your more than welcome :P Here is a group shot: http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k552/eldanesh2011/TacticalSquad.jpg The Sergeant http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k552/eldanesh2011/Sergeant.jpg Missile Launcher http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k552/eldanesh2011/MissileLauncher2.jpg Flamer http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k552/eldanesh2011/Flamer.jpg Enjoy ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Angel Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 with both of thoes names, i would suggest using a little bit of red (perhaps some sots of yellow) on the legs to give the impression that they are marching through embers and such, causing the little bits to float up in the air. i think that would look awesome, and add a very unique. as for the rest of it, that green is a bit too yellow, and it looks like youve missed a few of the eye ports Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3103842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Angel Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 with both of thoes names, i would suggest using a little bit of red (perhaps some sots of yellow) on the legs to give the impression that they are marching through embers and such, causing the little bits to float up in the air. i think that would look awesome, and add a very unique. as for the rest of it, that green is a bit too yellow, and it looks like youve missed a few of the eye ports Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3103843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwing70 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Nice work so far. The models still look a little bit flat though because you havent added any highlights or shading, this is ofcourse something that will take practise and experience to apply properly. You don't 'need' all the colours of paint to get things done though. You can mix them to make your own unique colours! Though I wouldn't recommend this for larger parts of the model as you'd have to repeat the same colours later down the line to match them. But small bits will hardly be noticed being a little different. For example you could make your own shade right now, just dip a basecoat/standard brush in the Chaos Black and put it on a tile/plate/something else that won't absorb the paint easily and can be washed. Then dip the brush into a cup of water, don't shake it, just dip... then apply to the paint on your tile/plate and repeat about 4-5 times untill you get a very very watery slightly black (dirty) pool of water. Clean your brush to be sure it doesn't hold too much paint/water and carefully paint some of this black water on for example the boltguns. The water should flow freely over the model of the gun and you'll notice it starts pooling in the edges etc. making these parts darker than others. Let it dry before you touch it again if you have to/want to. If you added too much you can clean your brush, dry it on some paper towel and then dip it on the model to absorb some of the water. Basically you just made and applied your own wash. But ofcourse you can also buy a pot for 3 euro that does exactly the same :lol: You can do this with any colour. For example gold usually works well with brownish paints, but you can also experiment with different colours to get different effects. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3103872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobalt Scars Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 I think the easiest way to improve any flat-painted mini is probably a careful wash of a dark ink, in order to shade the recesses. It gives a lot of depth very easily. I think that would be the fastest way to improve your first squad. Keep it up. Practice makes perfect! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3103907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin2008 Posted July 1, 2012 Author Share Posted July 1, 2012 Thanks for the advice and praises :) Il look into giving them a wash with black like has been recommended, i can understand by what you mean with the term "flat" and hopeully will post some pics up once washed :) Also a side note im currently painting my librarian :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3104155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gv0zD Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Deathwing70 gave a good piece of advice :) I would also suggest trying blending on the shoulder pads. It's not as difficult as it seems, just mix your green with white and yellow, add some water to the brush and carefully apply the mix on the edges, then stretch the paint towards the central part of the pad. The water is your friend as you can easily remove the excessive paint with another brush or tissue. I would also suggest lining the recesses on the armour. As of now, it looks to black and too monolithic, adding thin dark grey lines would visibly separate the armour parts. I also second War Angel's advice on adding a few tiny orange spots to the greaves, to make them look like treading embers. Or simply make them loon like embers. If you want to invest more time into painting, I would also propose the following thing: try painting thin curves over the plain parts of the armour (like the Night Lords' lightning bolts), but paint them orange. This would make them look like fantasy style magma golems. I'm sure the invested time would pay back tenfold :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3105166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin2008 Posted July 2, 2012 Author Share Posted July 2, 2012 Thanks all for your advice, i have found it very helpful :whistling: I attempted a black wash on the models, but by the pics you may not see them as clearly as in person :( However you may see that the sergeant is much darker (specially the red on helmet and weapon) Also the reason none have their eyes done yet is as i will be painting them yellow and have no yellow at the moment, but when i get some il paint all their eyes :eek In addition i Have now painted my librarian and decided to post him up here too, so here they are: Updated tactical Squad@: http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k552/eldanesh2011/TacticalSquadUpdated3.jpg Shot number 2: http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k552/eldanesh2011/TacticalSquadUpdated2.jpg Shot number 3: http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k552/eldanesh2011/TacticalSquadUpdated1.jpg Librarian Feros: http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k552/eldanesh2011/Librarian3.jpg Shot number 2: http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k552/eldanesh2011/Librarian2.jpg Shot number 3: http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k552/eldanesh2011/Librarian1.jpg Enjoy :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3105585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loken86 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 ya tactical squads look better now with the added washes you need to start highlighting the black armour lol as for ya lib hes great till ya get to the force weapon i think you need to more work on it maybe blends some oranges and yellows as u get closer to the blade tip look forward to playing against them lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3105713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin2008 Posted July 2, 2012 Author Share Posted July 2, 2012 ya tactical squads look better now with the added washes you need to start highlighting the black armour lol as for ya lib hes great till ya get to the force weapon i think you need to more work on it maybe blends some oranges and yellows as u get closer to the blade tip look forward to playing against them lol I havnt got any oranges or yellows yet but when i do, il add the eyes and the touches to the sword ;) Just to let ya all know up next is Mr. Multimelta dread :devil: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3105740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schultzhoffen Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Aways thin your paints with water (try to get a milk-like consistency). It's better to have 2-4 layers of thin paint than 1 layer thicky plastered on. Washes are your friend. Easy shadowing/layering effects (you can thin these with water as well, once again -2-3 thin layers may be better). Forget about highlights till later when you're more confident. Pretty much all of us started out like you but turned out pretty well in the end. Keep at it. The more you paint the better you'll get. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3106024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin2008 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 Thanks for the advice, iv never really thought about thining my paints, would you say its quite simple to do? And thanks im currently painting a dreadnought next <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3107663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schultzhoffen Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Thinning paints is easy peasy! mix paint and a few drops of water on your pallet -mix until you get the consistency required and...done. i.e. don't paint directly from the paint pottle. Just experiment until you're happy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3107842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin2008 Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 Thanks for the replies :0 Im here to share my newly done dreanought and rhino. I have decided to now paint flames on my guys to show their loyalty to the salamanders, so here they are: Dreadnought front: http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k552/eldanesh2011/DreadnoughtFront.jpg Dreadnoguth right: http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k552/eldanesh2011/DreadnoughtRight.jpg left (2 pics to show what the flame looks like as flash kills it lol: http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k552/eldanesh2011/DreadnoughtLeft2.jpg http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k552/eldanesh2011/DreadnoughtLeft1.jpg Rhino: http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k552/eldanesh2011/Rhino1.jpg http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k552/eldanesh2011/Rhino2.jpg http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k552/eldanesh2011/Rhino3.jpg Please note i know the flames are not much to look at, but for me they are good lmao, but hey as i go on hopefully they will improve. What ya think :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3119336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin2008 Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 multipost - sorry Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3119337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin2008 Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 multipost - sorry Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3119338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin2008 Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 SOrry for the triple post, my internet browser decided to have a funny 5 minutes :S Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3119350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Angel Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Quick fix to the triple post would Have been to apologize for it by editing it instead of making a new post. But if you go back and edit out the extra sets of pictures it would cut down the time it takes for slow internets to load this thread. Nice flames, that's a good looking dread. And you're Libby is an interesting model. Is that rouge trader error? As loken mentioned, the force weapon needs a little more. Good work, keep it up Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3120785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilToast Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Looks like your rihno's door are on backwards just saying. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3120807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin2008 Posted July 14, 2012 Author Share Posted July 14, 2012 Thanks for the advice, il do that now :) Also yes that librarian is the rogue trader era model, and i love the look of it :) adds history to my guys. Also i have noted the rhino doors were on backwards and have since corrected them (was my first rhino and i knew what way they went on but still ended up doing it wrong :-o ) Thanks for the praise for the flames, hopefully they will improve more as i paint more :) Just to let you know my next unit is my tactical squad number 2 :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3120967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Angel Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 a logical option. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3121022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greycloak Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 And, get yourself a handdrill and get drilling on those weapons! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3121343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Wooo - RT Librarian ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3126068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaius Atticus Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 I'm not a great painter and I find the best way to paint vehicle decals is to draw them in pencil first. Then all you need to do is paint in the gaps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3126600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickSix Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I think you are making great progress and taking advice well. However I am going to be that guy and say this belongs in the 'Work In Progress' forum. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255098-my-salamander-successor/#findComment-3127209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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