Dalaran Cassius Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 So with the awesome introduction of the new power maul/staff our chaplain, sarges and IC just got way better. Yeah I know what you guys are thinking, it can't pierce power armor but just think about the extra attack at S6 plus the cheap cost, it's a way better deal than the relic blade. Vs non-meq the maul offers the most flexibility. Anyway that's not what I want to debate here. I would like to know how to model/represent a power mace/maul. The top part is easy enough, you just use the banner tops of the command squad sprue. The tricky thing is where to find the bit that can represent the shaft of the mace/staff. Anyone got an idea? Also I guess I could use thunderhammer to represent power maul, but I would rather have something more distinctive. « Last Edit: Today at 07:26:18 PM by dalaran1991 » Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255332-how-to-model-a-power-maulmacestaff/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
arizonajirt Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 you mean like this? http://www.thewarstore.com/product26785.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255332-how-to-model-a-power-maulmacestaff/#findComment-3106518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 A paperclip, clipped with your wire cutters to the length you desire and placed in the hand of your choice would probly work just fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255332-how-to-model-a-power-maulmacestaff/#findComment-3106527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalaran Cassius Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 The dark angels power maul is fine. I'll keep that as an option. Basically I'm thinking of making a bunch of crozius arcanum. Wouldn't that be un-fluffy though? SM chaplains are the only permitted to carry a maul topped off with the imperial aquila head right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255332-how-to-model-a-power-maulmacestaff/#findComment-3106538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebulon Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I once bashed together a Crozius from a Khorne Beserker chain-axe (cut the axe-head off) and a spare Aquila finial... ...perhaps you could do something like that? EDIT: Yeah mine was for a Chaplain, no other characters are meant to have them really... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255332-how-to-model-a-power-maulmacestaff/#findComment-3106543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 You could always go look for cheap plastic swat cops with riot gear a requasition their clups for you marines Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255332-how-to-model-a-power-maulmacestaff/#findComment-3106559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Take a toothpick. Cut to desired length and put in miniatures hand. Take fist and form a mold around it. Use completed mold to make a copy of your fist. Put copy on the other end of the toothpick. You now have a big enough mace :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255332-how-to-model-a-power-maulmacestaff/#findComment-3106581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Axe handle from the assault kit, cut off axe head, stick something round and heavy on it that's obviously not a hammer head. Win. :D Options: lump of green stuff, skull, aquilla, something thick and spiky from a chaos marine kit, etc... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255332-how-to-model-a-power-maulmacestaff/#findComment-3106590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowHaunt Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Maces are pretty easy to come by in the fantasy line, especially among chaos warriors. Transplant the heads onto power axe shafts, and you're all set. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255332-how-to-model-a-power-maulmacestaff/#findComment-3106635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalaran Cassius Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 I found a source for the maces, so all is well and good :) Now however there's the problem of fluff. IMO SM officers don't normally use maces. Aside from vanguard vets, assault sarges and maybe command squad, who have the freedom to choose whatever assault weapons they want, most SM officers only use swords. I remember the standard equipment for Terminator sarges are always power sword, for ex, even though it means they will not get much swing in the confined areas they're often deployed to. Hmm GW is making it really hard to both follow the fluff and have the freedom of choosing weapons... I play Ultramarines too. Which models would be good to put power maces on? Can tactical sarges take maces, fluffwise? Most fluff I see they use swords, lots of swords (except BT). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255332-how-to-model-a-power-maulmacestaff/#findComment-3106646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 most SM officers only use swords. Swords certainly have a *cough* edge, but they are far from universal, aside from the Masters of the Chapter box (2 Captains with swords, 1 with hammer, 1 with axe) there's Lysander - 1st Company Captain who uses a Thunderhammer & Storm Shield, the Ultramarines Captain Invictus who died during the Battle for Macragge used a powerfist as does the Novamarines 1st company Captain Blaylock as did the Star Phantoms 9th Captain Androcles. Belial of the Deathwing seemingly having no particular favouritism between his sword, thunderhammer and lightning claws. Really I think officers can use whatever they choose to - it likely varies from engagement to engagement (mind you, I'm of the Space Crusade generation). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255332-how-to-model-a-power-maulmacestaff/#findComment-3106673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Yeah, maces are more a Sisters/Chaos thing. >> The Crozius Arcanum, I would like to remind people, is an alien torture device and not in fact of Imperial design at all. As far as staves go (as opposed to maces/mauls, which are basically the same thing), while doing sorcerer conversions I've found that Tomb King charioteer glaives are quite satisfactory, without looking too xeno (unlike Triarch staffs). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255332-how-to-model-a-power-maulmacestaff/#findComment-3107194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron-Daemon Forge Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I use the Arch-confessor Kyrinov model from the Sister of Battle range on my Iron Warriors Terminators for the gothic/crusade era look. http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...Id=prod1300016a The unit half & half with these & power axe. But I think I will be going all out on the maul/mace after my first game yesterday for my Terminator unit, but Champion in normal Chaos Marine squads will keep there power axe. Also if you look around the Warrior of Chaos range there possible a few there or Necromunda or there also the Dark Angels veteran box set which has a mace in there. IP Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255332-how-to-model-a-power-maulmacestaff/#findComment-3107202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekLee688 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 If you got the head in mind, all you need is a good shaft and power supply. The sang guard from the Blood Angels have very good axe handels that are two handed. They would make great maul/mace parts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255332-how-to-model-a-power-maulmacestaff/#findComment-3107284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalaran Cassius Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 Yeah, maces are more a Sisters/Chaos thing. >> The Crozius Arcanum, I would like to remind people, is an alien torture device and not in fact of Imperial design at all. Can u elaborate on that? How come the crozius arcanum, sacred relics of the chaplains, come from a torture device? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255332-how-to-model-a-power-maulmacestaff/#findComment-3107301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
voi shet magir Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Where do you get this idea about swords? I do not think the sergeant and veteran models show that bias. They include mace-guy in mkVIII, giant axe guy, pointing guy, pointing guy with auspex, and eighty or ninety power-glove models. Ultra-marines especially may not care about close combat weapons. In tactical squads, special ccw are more like personal accessories or heirlooms. Guilliman uses tactical squads to put their respective meltaguns a nd missile launchers in the right places. Facing down baddies in combat is an exceptional act for especially lionized officers of the company. It is not a specific tactical function with regulations in the codex, it is an honor thing. Swords are adantaged by a point or edge that do damage without the wind-up or weight required be axes or spears. If anything, swords are historically limited to high-status warriors. You should limit special ccw generally to heroes and assault squads. Also, croziuses arcanum can be any symbol, not just imperial, and chaplains frequently use them as symbols only while carrying a power sword. That is generally what Furyou Miko means, originally the normal crozius badge was weaponized into a crozius arcanum with an alien nerve-disruptor. Without that context, her allusion does not really count as information, so the decent thing for you to do was to have looked it up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255332-how-to-model-a-power-maulmacestaff/#findComment-3107622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 You could always go totally 'left field' with it too. I used a cyber-mastiff for my Centurion's counts-as Power Maul. Other than that, there are tons of mauls/ maces in the fantasy range that would work with a little conversion work. Beastmen Gors and Ungors have some cool ones for a brutal look, the Bretonian Grail Knight champion has a nice hammer like maul that'd look good with a pious army, the Lizardmen have a bunch of tribal / aztec style mauls, The Empire General has a sweet flanged mace, and the Empire warrior priest has a pair of gnarly whack-a-mole hammer mauls. Really, the question is, what would work best for the theme of your army? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255332-how-to-model-a-power-maulmacestaff/#findComment-3107961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennisBall Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Also, croziuses arcanum can be any symbol, not just imperial, and chaplains frequently use them as symbols only while carrying a power sword. That is generally what Furyou Miko means, originally the normal crozius badge was weaponized into a crozius arcanum with an alien nerve-disruptor. Without that context, her allusion does not really count as information, so the decent thing for you to do was to have looked it up. Look it up where? How about a codex or some other place where the information about the alien tech can be found. I've never heard that before and it's not in the Space Marine Codex, it's not mentioned on Lexicanum under the Crozius Arcanum entry so where please? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255332-how-to-model-a-power-maulmacestaff/#findComment-3110152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoros Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Guys. Relic blades. Modeled as two-handed Mauls. Now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255332-how-to-model-a-power-maulmacestaff/#findComment-3110229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Yellow Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Maces?! Awesome Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255332-how-to-model-a-power-maulmacestaff/#findComment-3110278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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