Splitwrist Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Does the +1 to cover save for Sgt. Telion's Stealth special rule stack with the +1 now given with camo cloaks? That's how the FAQ seems to read to me... Thanks, Split Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255378-sgt-telion-camo-cloaks-3-save/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Yep! Telion has +2 to hos cover save, and if you give his unit camo cloaks, they get the benefit too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255378-sgt-telion-camo-cloaks-3-save/#findComment-3107017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splitwrist Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 Yep! Telion has +2 to hos cover save, and if you give his unit camo cloaks, they get the benefit too. ;) Two words: AWESOME! ... the second word is also AWESOME! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255378-sgt-telion-camo-cloaks-3-save/#findComment-3107036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr Shepard Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Yep! Telion has +2 to hos cover save, and if you give his unit camo cloaks, they get the benefit too. ;) Two words: AWESOME! ... the second word is also AWESOME! Third word is :AWESOME. I think I'll buy a Telion model asap ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255378-sgt-telion-camo-cloaks-3-save/#findComment-3107053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkGuard Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Does it work like that though? The BGB says Stealth stacked with Shrouded, not necessarily with another Stealth rule. Surely you can only get the bonus to Stealth once, unless I missed something else in the FAQ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255378-sgt-telion-camo-cloaks-3-save/#findComment-3107081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Camo cloaks no longer give Stealth (in the SM FAQ, p.2, left middle), they simply give a +1 to cover save like Eldar Rangers. That way it's not Stealth + Stealth anymore, but Stealth +1. This will give the same save as before while in a forest (3+ cover) but will produce a mighty 2+ cover while in ruins or any other 4+ terrain. Naturally, the cost of the unit goes up 12-27 points, unfortunately, but it's still cheaper than a full squad of pathfinders! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255378-sgt-telion-camo-cloaks-3-save/#findComment-3107103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr Shepard Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Camo cloaks no longer give Stealth (in the SM FAQ, p.2, left middle), they simply give a +1 to cover save like Eldar Rangers. That way it's not Stealth + Stealth anymore, but Stealth +1. This will give the same save as before while in a forest (3+ cover) but will produce a mighty 2+ cover while in ruins or any other 4+ terrain. Naturally, the cost of the unit goes up 12-27 points, unfortunately, but it's still cheaper than a full squad of pathfinders! This is still nice. 2+ cover is ruins is simply amazing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255378-sgt-telion-camo-cloaks-3-save/#findComment-3107109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkGuard Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Camo cloaks no longer give Stealth (in the SM FAQ, p.2, left middle), they simply give a +1 to cover save like Eldar Rangers. That way it's not Stealth + Stealth anymore, but Stealth +1. This will give the same save as before while in a forest (3+ cover) but will produce a mighty 2+ cover while in ruins or any other 4+ terrain. Naturally, the cost of the unit goes up 12-27 points, unfortunately, but it's still cheaper than a full squad of pathfinders! Ah, so there was something I missed, thanks for pointing that out Seahawk. ... I may have to put my Scouts back into my list now... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255378-sgt-telion-camo-cloaks-3-save/#findComment-3107722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Camo cloaks no longer give Stealth (in the SM FAQ, p.2, left middle), they simply give a +1 to cover save like Eldar Rangers. That way it's not Stealth + Stealth anymore, but Stealth +1. This will give the same save as before while in a forest (3+ cover) but will produce a mighty 2+ cover while in ruins or any other 4+ terrain. Naturally, the cost of the unit goes up 12-27 points, unfortunately, but it's still cheaper than a full squad of pathfinders! This is still nice. 2+ cover is ruins is simply amazing. yeppers. You'll need to dig them out with assault and flamers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255378-sgt-telion-camo-cloaks-3-save/#findComment-3107835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 yeah this si something ive been looking at, makes telions unit 227 points now, when it was only 200 in 5th.. still getting 2+ without bolster ruins is nice Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255378-sgt-telion-camo-cloaks-3-save/#findComment-3107839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doomie Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Tellion doesn't have the stealth special rule anymore. They changed the FAQ. He has a camo cloak in his wargear now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255378-sgt-telion-camo-cloaks-3-save/#findComment-3108042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Tellion doesn't have the stealth special rule anymore. They changed the FAQ. He has a camo cloak in his wargear now. im looking at the FAQ in a second window.. the second part is correct in that he gained a camo cloak, but they didnt remove his stelath USR. ergo he still has it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255378-sgt-telion-camo-cloaks-3-save/#findComment-3108052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doomie Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Tellion doesn't have the stealth special rule anymore. They changed the FAQ. He has a camo cloak in his wargear now. im looking at the FAQ in a second window.. the second part is correct in that he gained a camo cloak, but they didnt remove his stelath USR. ergo he still has it derp, I'm an idiot Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255378-sgt-telion-camo-cloaks-3-save/#findComment-3108115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortysl Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Camo cloaks no longer give Stealth (in the SM FAQ, p.2, left middle), they simply give a +1 to cover save like Eldar Rangers. That way it's not Stealth + Stealth anymore, but Stealth +1. This will give the same save as before while in a forest (3+ cover) but will produce a mighty 2+ cover while in ruins or any other 4+ terrain. Naturally, the cost of the unit goes up 12-27 points, unfortunately, but it's still cheaper than a full squad of pathfinders! This is still nice. 2+ cover is ruins is simply amazing. yeppers. You'll need to dig them out with assault and flamers. Hmmmm, Some Space Marine allies for my Imperial Guard you say?........ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255378-sgt-telion-camo-cloaks-3-save/#findComment-3108118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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