thor1234 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 ok so have just been reading many of the posts scattered about the site.....so much excitement for the new rules anyway if you fine battle brothers can just confirm if I have read this right or if Ive misinterpreted... A GK Libby is Psychic mastery 2 or (3) with the upgrade so he generates that amount of powers from the rule book (say Divination) so mastery (2) would give him Hammer hand +2 powers (or is it just hammer hand +1 other) he can then purchase extra powers at 5 points each..... now can he also exchange those purchased powers for a roll on the relevant psyker list for each power purchased??? Thanks in advance...... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255435-how-to-generate-psychic-powers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddonshand Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 He keeps hammerhand, and gets additional powers equal to his mastery level. So, in your example, level 2 = hammerhand + 2 rolls. You can't buy any further powers if you opt to use the standard ones however. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255435-how-to-generate-psychic-powers/#findComment-3107703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 As far as I can tell, it's an either/or thing. Either you go by what's in our Codex, which is starting with Hammerhand and buying additional powers from his list at 5 points each OR You go with one of the various allowed charts from the main book, in which case he starts with Hammerhand and gets an additional 2 (or 3) rolls. You cannot buy anything else powerwise if you do this, nor do you get access to any of the powers in our Codex besides Hammerhand if you chose this method. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255435-how-to-generate-psychic-powers/#findComment-3107884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Clausel Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Im confused when it comes to how many rolls on the powers he has. When I read the rules for it. I think 2 extra powers(or 3 if Mastery 3) and cant exchange Hammerhand. But then in white dwarf he is Mastery 3 with 2 powers and Hammerhand. Not really easy to see whats right :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255435-how-to-generate-psychic-powers/#findComment-3109108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 The little book that comes with the psychic abilities says. "generate 1 psychic ability per mastery level, if he does so he cannot purchase additional powers, hammerhand cannot be exchanged this way" which doesn't really help. From the wording it seems that a mastery 3 libby would get 3 rolls on the psychic disciplines chart, and that is how I interpret it, however it's not very clear. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255435-how-to-generate-psychic-powers/#findComment-3109218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherWasted Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Psychic Powers A Grey Knights Librarian may use the psychic disciplines found in the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook, instead of those in Codex: Grey Knights. If he does so, generate a number of psychic powers equal to his Mastery Level from the Divination, Pyromancy or Telekinesis disciplines (in any combination) before armies are deployed. If he does so he may not purchase additional powers. Hammerhand cannot be exchanged in this manner. It's quite clear. You make a choice when you make your army list: will you buy GK powers or will you roll from the tables instead? It's right there - where's the confusion? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255435-how-to-generate-psychic-powers/#findComment-3109434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Clausel Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 About how many rolls he have on the table. If hes mastery lvl 2 does he get 2 or 1 roll? It says Hammerhand cant be exchanged this way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255435-how-to-generate-psychic-powers/#findComment-3109445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddonshand Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 We discussed in another thread as I also spotted the discrepancy in the WD battle report. The general conclusion is that the WD battle report has erred; wouldn't be the first time :blush: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255435-how-to-generate-psychic-powers/#findComment-3109612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Never ever trust what they do in WD. They consistently fail to follow the rules, and its completely rigged to let the shiny new codex eke out a win. If the player they get to use the opposing force isn't a complete noob, they make him take a terrible list (sometimes both). For people who don't get the wording; Your options are thus 1) Librarian picks powers as per normal from Codex: Grey Knights (by buying them) 2) Librarian ditches powers (except 'Hammerhand'), rolls for powers from Divination/Pyromancy/Telekinesis If you select option 2, you roll for a number of powers equal to your Mastery level. So, the normal Mastery Level 2 Libby rolls for two powers. If you upgrade to Mastery Level 3 (don't), you can roll for three powers. Just a note, don't swap out the Libby. He has unique and game-changing codex powers ('Sanctuary', 'Shrouding', 'Might'). Far better candidates for swapping are Coteaz (he has Mastery 2 as well, and his default powers aren't usually worth bothering with), or the dirt-cheap Malleus psychic Inquisitors (who have the hilarious additional option of going into TDA with a hammer+psycannon). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255435-how-to-generate-psychic-powers/#findComment-3111177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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