Lord Ragnarok Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 So I was thinking would it be a good idea to take both types of frost weapons for a Wolf Lord? This would be expensive but versatile. Before we could rely on the frost blade to take out both termies and PA, now with frost swords being AP3 we will not force INV saves on terminators. Was thinking about..... Wolf Lord, bike, frost axe, frost sword, runic armor, belt of russ. Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 So I was thinking would it be a good idea to take both types of frost weapons for a Wolf Lord? This would be expensive but versatile. Before we could rely on the frost blade to take out both termies and PA, now with frost swords being AP3 we will not force INV saves on terminators. Was thinking about..... Wolf Lord, bike, frost axe, frost sword, runic armor, belt of russ. Thoughts? Would definitely work, but boy would that be expensive (50 points just for the melee weapons, alone!). Perhaps you could leave the AP2 dirty work to someone else in the unit, and focus your Wolf Lord on carving up regular troopers. I face the same issue with Ragnar - no more AP2 for him, so he needs to just avoid the Terminators. When somebody with a 2+ Armour Save comes along that really needs to be killed, then I'll leave that up to an Axe/Fist/Hammer model instead. He would look cool, though, so I wouldn't say this is a definite don't do it situation. Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3109501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Id let the bloodclaws takem down by weight of numbers just like always, and let the characters carve up anyone else in sight. If I was going the route you mentioned though... why not go for broke and just give him a thunderwolf mount? They move 12 now, so you only miss out on turboboosting but get the extra strength instead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3109511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted July 4, 2012 Author Share Posted July 4, 2012 Good points. I guess you could also just let him strike last with saga of the bear while using Storm shield and and T.Hammer unless he needs to thin the herd (which is probably the case when riding with BC bikers. (ponders....) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3109514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Actually it would not be that expensive, according to the 6th Edition FAQ Frost Blades are now only 10 points. Check it out!. So actually both a Frost Blade and Frost Axe would still be 5pts Cheaper than a single Frost Weapon was in 5th Edition... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3109521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted July 4, 2012 Author Share Posted July 4, 2012 Actually it would not be that expensive, according to the 6th Edition FAQ Frost Blades are now only 10 points. Check it out!. So actually both a Frost Blade and Frost Axe would still be 5pts Cheaper than a single Frost Weapon was in 5th Edition... But that's for a Terminator wolf lord I think. Not a PA Wolf Lord on bike. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3109526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKAwolf Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Actually it would not be that expensive, according to the 6th Edition FAQ Frost Blades are now only 10 points. That specifically refers to the 5th bullet point which are the discounted prices when equiped with terminator armor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3109527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 What about wolf claw + power fist instead? :) Wolf claw >> frost sword, while power fist >> frost axe (assuming you get the same number of attacks with each, which you do as wolf claw and power fist are both specialist). And you save about 5 points, I believe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3109528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 The only question is, how do you ride a thunderwolf with a power fist and lightning claws without accidentally making its head-asplode? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3109560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Actually it would not be that expensive, according to the 6th Edition FAQ Frost Blades are now only 10 points. That specifically refers to the 5th bullet point which are the discounted prices when equiped with terminator armor. And this is actually the exact same Errata adjustment that they did back in 5th soon after our codex was released; Phil hadn't provided an option to get frost weapons to Lords or Battle Leaders in TDA, so they actually fixed the issue. No change; nothing to see here. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3109575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 And this is actually the exact same Errata adjustment that they did back in 5th soon after our codex was released; Phil hadn't provided an option to get frost weapons to Lords or Battle Leaders in TDA, so they actually fixed the issue. No change; nothing to see here. Yea I see that now, my bad. :blush: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3109583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 My fluffy wolf lord wields the wolf claw and power fist combo. I call him the swiss army knife. Reward for saving tech priests from chaos. Custom claws retract while riding thunder wolf mount. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3109597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schertenleib Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 The only question is, how do you ride a thunderwolf with a power fist and lightning claws without accidentally making its head-asplode? :P Knee pressure like Dressage. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3109668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 The only question is, how do you ride a thunderwolf with a power fist and lightning claws without accidentally making its head-asplode? :D Knee pressure like Dressage. Yeah, true. It's not really all that difficult, but it's still a funny thought. I also like to imagine space marines with power fists trying to buy groceries. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3109731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schertenleib Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 The only question is, how do you ride a thunderwolf with a power fist and lightning claws without accidentally making its head-asplode? :lol: Knee pressure like Dressage. Yeah, true. It's not really all that difficult, but it's still a funny thought. I also like to imagine space marines with power fists trying to buy groceries. And count change. :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3109822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphus Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 So I was thinking would it be a good idea to take both types of frost weapons for a Wolf Lord? This would be expensive but versatile. Before we could rely on the frost blade to take out both termies and PA, now with frost swords being AP3 we will not force INV saves on terminators. Was thinking about..... Wolf Lord, bike, frost axe, frost sword, runic armor, belt of russ. Thoughts? Would definitely work, but boy would that be expensive (50 points just for the melee weapons, alone!). Perhaps you could leave the AP2 dirty work to someone else in the unit, and focus your Wolf Lord on carving up regular troopers. I face the same issue with Ragnar - no more AP2 for him, so he needs to just avoid the Terminators. When somebody with a 2+ Armour Save comes along that really needs to be killed, then I'll leave that up to an Axe/Fist/Hammer model instead. He would look cool, though, so I wouldn't say this is a definite don't do it situation. Valerian What's wrong with giving a Wolf Lord on a bike two Wolf Claws if you want him to cut up infantry? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3110103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 So I was thinking would it be a good idea to take both types of frost weapons for a Wolf Lord? This would be expensive but versatile. Before we could rely on the frost blade to take out both termies and PA, now with frost swords being AP3 we will not force INV saves on terminators. Was thinking about..... Wolf Lord, bike, frost axe, frost sword, runic armor, belt of russ. Thoughts? Would definitely work, but boy would that be expensive (50 points just for the melee weapons, alone!). Perhaps you could leave the AP2 dirty work to someone else in the unit, and focus your Wolf Lord on carving up regular troopers. I face the same issue with Ragnar - no more AP2 for him, so he needs to just avoid the Terminators. When somebody with a 2+ Armour Save comes along that really needs to be killed, then I'll leave that up to an Axe/Fist/Hammer model instead. He would look cool, though, so I wouldn't say this is a definite don't do it situation. Valerian What's wrong with giving a Wolf Lord on a bike two Wolf Claws if you want him to cut up infantry? A lack of AP2? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3110128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt01price Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 yeah a lack of AP2 and what happens in a challenge? Chances are you're going to be up against 2+ (Ghaz, Space marine ICs and anyone tooled up for challenges...). Got to admit I like this axe and sword idea... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3110731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 yeah a lack of AP2 and what happens in a challenge? Chances are you're going to be up against 2+ (Ghaz, Space marine ICs and anyone tooled up for challenges...). Got to admit I like this axe and sword idea... Can't instant death big threats with axe. That is tradeoff if you don't use powerfist Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3110774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasterfree Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 i myself will be going to just axes for most frost weapons (this may also include doing a custom ragnar) just for the +2 s. wounding on 2s is a lot better than just 3s, sure i go last, but thats what the unit is for! my lord is going to be armed as such from now on i think: frost axe/SS/RA/WTN/SOTB Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3110823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 i myself will be going to just axes for most frost weapons (this may also include doing a custom ragnar) just for the +2 s. wounding on 2s is a lot better than just 3s, sure i go last, but thats what the unit is for! my lord is going to be armed as such from now on i think: frost axe/SS/RA/WTN/SOTB Anything that a frost axe + storm shield can do, a power fist + storm shield can do better, and at the same cost. Similarly, anything a frost sword + frost axe can do, a wolf claw + power fist can do better, and for *fewer* points. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3110835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elazar The Glorified Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Why not a Frost Blade and a Power Axe and save 10pts? You'll always be S5 with 6 attacks on the charge, you're just having to decide between AP3 and AP2 then. Or I5 and I1 Although to be fair, Wolf Claw and Power Fist might be a better way to go for getting the most out of your points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3110859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 There is just something about wounding MEQ on 2 vs 3.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3110896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 I run my Wolf Lord on a thunderwolf anyways, and I'm really partial to just keeping the second hand free and resorting to rending when I really need AP2. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3112428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphus Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 So I was thinking would it be a good idea to take both types of frost weapons for a Wolf Lord? This would be expensive but versatile. Before we could rely on the frost blade to take out both termies and PA, now with frost swords being AP3 we will not force INV saves on terminators. Was thinking about..... Wolf Lord, bike, frost axe, frost sword, runic armor, belt of russ. Thoughts? Would definitely work, but boy would that be expensive (50 points just for the melee weapons, alone!). Perhaps you could leave the AP2 dirty work to someone else in the unit, and focus your Wolf Lord on carving up regular troopers. I face the same issue with Ragnar - no more AP2 for him, so he needs to just avoid the Terminators. When somebody with a 2+ Armour Save comes along that really needs to be killed, then I'll leave that up to an Axe/Fist/Hammer model instead. He would look cool, though, so I wouldn't say this is a definite don't do it situation. Valerian What's wrong with giving a Wolf Lord on a bike two Wolf Claws if you want him to cut up infantry? A lack of AP2? Ok I should have defined what I meant by infantry. I wasn't talking about the heavier infantry, I meant the basic infantry/horde types. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255577-wolf-lord-taking-both-frost-blade-types/#findComment-3112456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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