Brother Captain Firelupus Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Hi all, After reading the new 6E of the rules, the one thing that stood out was the gunslinger rule. After re-reading our codex for implications i noticed that wolfguard can swap either their boltpistol or ccw for a plasma pistol. So I present my setup for Wolfguard Ulfgaren Power armor, bolt pistol and plasma pistol. I may upgrade him to have a mark of the worgen, but will see if its legal, my codex is at home. I intend to have Ulfgaren leading a small 5 man greyhunter pack. Not bad for 28 points. or 2 plasma pistols for 38pts. Out of all the named characters in the 40k universe Cypher always attracted my eye , with his gunslinger. Now we can get an extra plasma shot off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khine Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 ^-^ can't wait to see the model once your done and you just gave me an idea. I totally want to field a cypher as a counts as WG now, the way you were setting up yours just to irk my DA opponents. Thank you good sir. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3109955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 im thinking lone wolf 2 plas pistols and mark of the wulfen very nasty Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3110004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 im thinking lone wolf 2 plas pistols and mark of the wulfen very nasty He's almost like my Lone Wolf, except that I also opted for a Storm Shield for him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3110041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schertenleib Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Missed Gunslinger. Where is it in the book, or could someone explain please. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3110335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrne Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 page 52 under pistol all you need to do is equip models as per rules with two pistols of any type.... Ive done 10 WG so far... just had the bits, sitting on another 14 pair of plasma pistols :blink: but for 3xx points? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3110347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 page 52 under pistol all you need to do is equip models as per rules with two pistols of any type.... Ive done 10 WG so far... just had the bits, sitting on another 14 pair of plasma pistols :blink: but for 3xx points? Add a wolf priest and go hunting terminators. Probably want a few terminators of your own to take hits and counter assaults I think gunslinging wolf guard will be a new deathstar unit Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3110365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik84 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 yep give him the mark of the wulfen, nothing stoping you, as it is not affected by wargear or additional close combat weapons, just a straight d6+1 im off to built a few for my wolfguard pack leaders lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3110376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khine Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 yep give him the mark of the wulfen, nothing stoping you, as it is not affected by wargear or additional close combat weapons, just a straight d6+1 im off to built a few for my wolfguard pack leaders lol only one gets that unfortunately. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3110378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik84 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 true, but still have more than one gunslinger cant wait to play my little brothers Dark Angels lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3110383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Firelupus Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 Its funny though, gunslinger makes plasma awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3111011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mullinstron Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Sorry but what does the rule actually do ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3111487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik84 Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 lets you carrie and fire two pistols Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3111490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow warrior Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 You may fire 2 pistol shots. so if you carry a plasma pistol and a bolt pistol you may fire both (1plasma shot and 1 bolt shot in the same phase) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3111513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arez Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Why not go 2 plasma pistols? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3111768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I would go bolt/plasma, otherwise you are really starting to sink points into a pretty fragile unit. Marines are tough, but just due to the small size and 12" range they are going to be a little fragile. Also plasma is scary so they will be targeted. I would build a gunslinger pack like so: 1 Wolf Priest, runic armor, plasma pistol, wolf tooth necklace, wolf tail talisman 2 Wolf guard with plasma pistol/Stormshield (maybe just combi-plasma's since they can't get an extra attack anyway and save some points) 3 wolfguard with plasma pistol/bolt pistol With the new wound allocation rules you put the two stormshield guys up front, gunslingers behind. The wolf priest allows for 1 re-rolls to help prevent over-heats, as well as giving you the option to take Saga of the Hunter and outflank with them. If not I'd just put them in a razorback or rhino to rush 'em up. The 5 man WG squad runs 180 points, add in a razorback brings you over 200. Wolf Priest and it gets super expensive. While it has tons of "cool" factor, I would stick with just having your shooty grey hunter/wolf scout squads have a gunslinger pack leader. They seem like too much of a point sink for my taste. Also this comes to mind since they count as CCW's: http://www.gods-inc.de/macavity/shadowrun/weapons/mallorean-bladegun.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3111851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 I'm seriously thinking about making a double-Plasma Pistol Gunslinger Wolf Guard to run with my Wolf Priest (who now needs a Plasma Pistol too). Maybe give him MotW, too, just for close combat ability, although I would avoid challenges. Attach both to a Plasma Hunter pack and Outflank. Maybe not optimized, but they'd be fun as hell to play. I wouldn't even care that I couldn't assault when I enter the board. I think I need to build one today. Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3113097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 I think I need to build one today. Challenge accepted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3113530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Looking good Valerian! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3114225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 I am inclined to follow that path now :) - the idea of (afore metntioned) a wolf guard with twin plasmas, plus a plasma toting wolf priest for those preffered enemy extras speeks to me of a brilliant 'home objective' force, backed up by long fangs and a unit of hunters w/ plasmas and standard. I'll deffo have to check out the new bits in the BRB when it arrives sometime next week :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3114582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Looking good Valerian! Thanks! I'm pretty happy with how he turned out. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3114718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I'm pretty sure this has been answered elsewhere, but the search function is unresponsive for me. Can a grey hunter swap their chainsword (or boltgun) for a plasma pistol? Or are they forced to swap their bolt pistol out if they want a plasma pistol? I know the FAQ makes this possible for wolf scouts (and wolf guards can take 2 pistols), but I'm not sure what rules source, if any, makes this possible for grey hunters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3118534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khine Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 ok this is probably extremely wishful thinking on my part.. but .. Page 51 of the BYB under " Close combat weapons " A pistol can be used as a close combat weapon. Does this mean the for entries in our unit wargear section we COULD possibly arm models with a second bolt pistol? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3118720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 ok this is probably extremely wishful thinking on my part.. but .. Page 51 of the BYB under " Close combat weapons " A pistol can be used as a close combat weapon. Does this mean the for entries in our unit wargear section we COULD possibly arm models with a second bolt pistol? Unfortunately, No. Although pistols can be used in close combat as a close combat weapon, that won't affect the wargear selection criteria in the unit entry. To give a Grey Hunter a Plasma Pistol, you have to trade in the Bolt Pistol- trust me, I went back to see what it said, exactly. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3118773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khine Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 ok this is probably extremely wishful thinking on my part.. but .. Page 51 of the BYB under " Close combat weapons " A pistol can be used as a close combat weapon. Does this mean the for entries in our unit wargear section we COULD possibly arm models with a second bolt pistol? Unfortunately, No. Although pistols can be used in close combat as a close combat weapon, that won't affect the wargear selection criteria in the unit entry. To give a Grey Hunter a Plasma Pistol, you have to trade in the Bolt Pistol- trust me, I went back to see what it said, exactly. V oh no i wasn't meaning anything about trading in for a plasma pistol. Just Bolt pistol + Close combat weapon (bolt pistol). But i see what your getting at. Would have been nice to have a unit of gun slinging blood claws though :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255582-wolfguard-gunslinger-6ed/#findComment-3118824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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