henrywalker Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 So i was just reading the necron codex looking at anykr the traveler. he has a special rule called mind in the machine which says that at the start of your shooting phase choose an enemy vehicle within 18" roll a d6, on a 3+ you get to shoot a weapon on the vehicle. now lets imagine that i have a GK army with a necron ally detachment. (ie allies of convenience so they are enemies i cant hurt) lets imagine i have a vehicle with a nice big gun that i want to shoot lots, can i potentially fire it with anykr's rule and then fire it as normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 choose an enemy vehicle i dont think it works that way tbh, has to be an enemy vehicle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrywalker Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 BRB: "units in your army treat allies of convenience as enemy units that cannot be charge shot, targeted with psychic powers or have templates or blast markers placed over them." as far as i can see this is not a psychic power and it effects enemy units Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 id still say no, whether its a psychic ability or a shooting ability, all those things are covered in the rule you quoted. treated as enemies is different to being enemies. they are infact your allies. tbh i knew it wouldnt be long before the allies rule opened up to abuse :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Youre an ally, not an enemy. Close enough to be friendly, not close enough to be best friends. If its your enemies, then you need to let your opponent control it the rest of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Why would you want to though, since you could just fire it anyway in your turn? I suppose it's an attempt to claim you are allowed to fire twice? Anyway, you cannot target your allies for friendly fire therefore a weapon or ability which targets your enemies cannot target your allies, even if your allies hate you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 This is super cut and dry. Read the Allied rules more carefully. You treat your "Allies of Convenience" as enemy models which you cannot shoot, charge, or target with powers or abilities. Thus the answer is no. For th record, they do permit us to answer specifically Necron questions on the Official Rules board...and the general Tactica board. :( But no where else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrywalker Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 This is super cut and dry. Read the Allied rules more carefully. You treat your "Allies of Convenience" as enemy models which you cannot shoot, charge, or target with powers or abilities. Thus the answer is no. ah but it becomes less cut and dried as the word abilities is not in there. the rule says the ally cant be: "charged, shot, targeted with psychic powers or have templates or blast markers placed over them. nothing about abilities or war gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 It still doesnt change the basic fact that an ally is not an enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrywalker Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 why are they not, it says that they are treated as an enemy bar the mentioned exceptions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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