JamesI Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Astorath is a good choice I think. I used Dante today and he worked fine, would have been better had I not rolled a 6 for hit and run....Plus making SG troops was good. Seth with the Strength 8 rending is nice. Tycho looks awesome. Which side of the Axe argument did you play with? Don't want to drag it up just curious. Players at my store accepted my argument of AP3 as the correct one. I think this is the correct ruling, but I think Mezkh might be right that Dante is better off with an axe (a completely different discussion as to which is the RAW correct rule). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255633-tycho-and-some-other-hqs/page/2/#findComment-3107011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenExxes Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Here's one that nobody's considered...what about Sanguinor? In a world of challenges, that sergeant buff could be worth its weight in gold (pun sadly unintended). In addition, given that Sanguinor goes after and beats the snot out of an enemy HQ choice, 'slay the warlord' is a comparatively easy victory point, and Sanguinor himself isn't exactly easy to kill. Can The Sanguinor (and other non-IC's) challenge? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255633-tycho-and-some-other-hqs/page/2/#findComment-3107012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Here's one that nobody's considered...what about Sanguinor? In a world of challenges, that sergeant buff could be worth its weight in gold (pun sadly unintended). In addition, given that Sanguinor goes after and beats the snot out of an enemy HQ choice, 'slay the warlord' is a comparatively easy victory point, and Sanguinor himself isn't exactly easy to kill. Can The Sanguinor (and other non-IC's) challenge? No. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255633-tycho-and-some-other-hqs/page/2/#findComment-3107013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenExxes Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I didn't think so. I get the rulebook tomorrow so thanks for answering my questions :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255633-tycho-and-some-other-hqs/page/2/#findComment-3107014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Admetus Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Actually, there's nothing that says he can't. Sergeants and so on are non-independent characters, and they can act in a challenge just fine. It even calls out Mephiston specifically in the "characters" section on p 63. The exact quote is "Other characters, such as Mephiston of the Blood Angels, fight as units on their own. They are either mighty, or feared enough by their own kind, that they don't take to the battlefield with other warriors. Regardless of their potency, all follow the rules for characters." The challenge rule simply says "nominate a character in one of your units locked in the combat to be a character". The only mention of Independent Character in the whole character/challenge section is a 2 line bit under the heading of Independent Character which says that that rule allows them to join units, and everywhere in the challenge section it just refers to "character" rather than "independent character". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255633-tycho-and-some-other-hqs/page/2/#findComment-3107077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman_woo Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Can The Sanguinor (and other non-IC's) challenge? No. I fear you may be mistaken there James, all charachters can make and accept challenges (inc. Sgt's etc.). Mephiston is explicity mentioned in this capacity which to me strongly suggests that unless FAQ'd otherwise sanguinor, death co tycho etc. would be exactly the same for any game purposes. They are described as "special characters" afterall... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255633-tycho-and-some-other-hqs/page/2/#findComment-3107311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbay6874 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 In my opinion, Librarian in terminator armour with a storm shield is now a very effective choice (although quite costly). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255633-tycho-and-some-other-hqs/page/2/#findComment-3107322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadOnArrival Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 i think real attention should be given to the psychic powers avaliable, biomancy and divination have some excellent powers imo. running librarians with epistolary upgrades or just meph and a back up caster with meph running biomancy and backup taking divination, you can get a combination of personal buffs that turn them into combat monsters (extra anything is possible, including a 4++, which can also be put on a unit) along with a heal, various damage and re rolls etc. i recon those 2 together in a list would be great. yes your at the mercy of the dice rolling for all these powers and yes sometimes you will get shut down here and there, but if you do, you still have potent characters anyway but if they do get a few chains going, its a huge boost, on paper anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255633-tycho-and-some-other-hqs/page/2/#findComment-3107352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Can The Sanguinor (and other non-IC's) challenge? No. I fear you may be mistaken there James, all charachters can make and accept challenges (inc. Sgt's etc.). Mephiston is explicity mentioned in this capacity which to me strongly suggests that unless FAQ'd otherwise sanguinor, death co tycho etc. would be exactly the same for any game purposes. They are described as "special characters" afterall... I might be wrong. I'm sure I'll make a lot of mistakes rules wise as we all get used to 6th. I'll look it up when I get home and have rulebook access again. I don't recall the explicit mention of Mephiston, but if that is the case than Sanguinor almost certainly can issue challenges (and fluff wise it makes sense he could). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255633-tycho-and-some-other-hqs/page/2/#findComment-3107355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Remember it is possible to be a (character) without being attatched to a squad or having the independent character special rule, case in point dreadknights are characters and can challenge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255633-tycho-and-some-other-hqs/page/2/#findComment-3108204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knurd Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I was wondering if anyone has ran Captain Tycho yet? If so, how did you run him and how did he do? I was thinking about running him with a squad of Terminators, seeing as Tycho is pretty much a suped up Terminator. Stick them in a LR, maybe buy a Spartan Assault tank since it seems to be fast. I know it would be a very expensive unit but I'm pretty sure that it can run thought anything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/255633-tycho-and-some-other-hqs/page/2/#findComment-3110019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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