Gentlemanloser Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 I'm hooked. Have to admit it. I just can't work any lists, can't get ast any design currently that doesn't include as many Inquisitors with the PML upgrade as possible. /sigh There are two flavours I run between; 1: A base Inquisitor with PML and the default Divination Power. This guy rocks in at a paltry 55 points, and gives your 4 Psycannon Purifier/Purgation (really!) Squad Rerolls to hit. 2: An upgraded Inquisitor with TDA, Psycannon and PML1. For 110 points, you get a guy with 3 wounds, 2+ Save and the 5th Psycannon for your Purifier/Purgation unit above. All with Rerolls. Pew Pew. Running a close third is Coteaz. Coming between the two, you get an Inquisitor with a NDH and 2+ Save with Divination, but no Psycannon. In exchange, you get I've Been Expecting You. For slightly less than the second option. These seem honestly *so* good, I just can't find any other HQ I want to run, and this rules out any allies. If we had any Brothers in Arms I'd utilise 2 Rune Priests or a Farseer instead, but sadly, that's not an option. The stubborn the Inquisitors give is a nice little bonus as well, if you're not running Purifiers with them. Oh, and you can give the Keeper/Purgation Justicar a chea Halberd for Challenges. Am I missing something? The stupidly broken Runes of Warding aside, as you now cannot PH a self buff, and Deny the Witch doesn't help, is the primary Divination power not as good as I'm thinking? If only your Allies of Convience SW Rune PRiests could cast this on your GK, I'd take two in a heartbeat! lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 I for one, have yet to use a competitive list without Coteaz. Having the first turn 66% (or so) of the time is very good. But now, with divination, he's extremely good. Prescience makes multiple psycannons murderous, even against Flyers or LRs. But with a bit of luck, you can add Perfect Timing (target unit gets no cover saves... even from Astral Aim!?). Or Misfortune to have your opponent re-roll succesful saving throws thus allowing to hurt termies reliably. Or forboding to have an overwatch as full BS. Plus, he's got attitude and a cool model :lol: Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3115781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 But for 10 points more you could have another Psycannon to pew pew with! 5 Psycannons with full rereolls. /drool I can't belive this is actually making me consider using Purgation Squads. Cheaper to get the full 4 Psycannons, and the Justicar can still have a cheap Halberd for Challenges. And I don't feel like I'm wasting the Purifiers second attack by giving them a Psycannon. If only Purgators were Fearless... But with Stubborn, I'm not sure that's too much of an issue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3115805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 I'm looking forward to using 10 pallies with my ordo malleus terminator inquisitor with psycannon with divination :( While Coteaz is cheaper, he isn't in terminator armour (Draigowing for me= everything in terminator armour or go home!). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3115832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 Twin Linked Relentless Psycannons... Folk are gonna get hurt! lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3115907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 I'd put Coteaz in a unit of Paladins... They can shoot on the move, can take the challenge away from Coteaz (or leave it to him if you want), it's an all 2+ AS unit. But really, that re-roll on seizing the initiative is worth a lot to me. "First Blood" objective, alpha-striking (not as important as in 5th ed. but still important). Oh, and don't forget IBEY on those re-rolling psycannons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3115927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I had considered a few substitutions to divination as well. The question now is a shooty warband versus a melee with hammerhand warband. You can also load up on 3 plasma cannons and 3 plasma guns plus Jokaero and a hellrifle all in the same retinue :) Psychic Communion is still good for a deep striking reserves army, hammerhand is useful for melee, but divination abilities really help out the shooting Inquisition approach. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3116053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I find myself very much wanting/needing a double-dosage of Communion to help me shepherd my Callidus in at an opportune (correct) time...but since most games around here weigh in at 2K and I love Troop units, I miiiiiight just throw a third HQ caster in there. <3 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3116067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormshadow Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Don’t forget to add a Grand Master so you reroll 1’s to wound as well :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3116183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormshadow Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Hmmm… GM: Psycannon Inquisitor: Psycannon Purigators: 4x Psycannon. That’s 20 shots, giving you 14,09 normal wounds and 3,52 rending against T4. That’s 8,22 dead Space Marines or 4,70 dead Terminators. … I could live with that B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3116194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItchiBuh Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Is it not 24 shots? Also, it still only takes 1x str 10 AP 2 Large Blast to kill them all ... (Vindicator/Medusa). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3116395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormshadow Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 My bad, It was a little early in the morning for me :( And you are absolutely right. If a vindicator manages to get into range, and manages to get the entire squad under the template, and manages to not roll a single 1, and the squad fails all its cover/invurnable saves, they are toast! You better hope that you get within range of that Vindicator with a Las Cannon or Vindicare Assassin before it can start any mischief. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3116414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted July 10, 2012 Author Share Posted July 10, 2012 Ages ago, I once kitbashed my own Cypher (cuz I loved that guy, boo on retcons), using a robed Dangle with two Plasma Pistols (cuz they look better than the Bolt Pistol he actually has), with a BT sword bit on his back. Now I'm sorely temped to drop the TDA/Psycannon on my Divination Inquisitor to run him as; OM Inquisitor, Plasma Pistol, Plasma Pistol, Daemonblade, Psycher. A crap. Typing this out, I can't buy all three weapons. /sob Oh well, the potentially fun Daemonblade will have to go. Divination rerolls with 'Gunslinging' dual Plasma Pistols. If you have dual Pistols you can now shot them both, right? How does that work? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3116441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 If you have dual Pistols you can now shot them both, right? How does that work? Um, you roll two dice? ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3116546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Technically you can't unless you're a Seraphim, in which case they *double checks current rules that seem to change every edition or two* fire them as two weapons this latest Codex! used to be they were treated as a twin-linked weapon that counts as two weapons in an assault, which is/was mechanically the same as a Master-crafted Pistol and a CCW. I say don't worry about it, model it as awesome, and perhaps it's a power weapon because it's used point-blank range in your face, and melts through your armor in hand-to-hand :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3116764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 INP, didn't the gunslinger rule in 6th. change that so that now any model with 2 pistols can fire both? Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3116774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Heck if I know... it's one of the wierd wonky ones that doesn't really apply to any of my models since Seraphim are covered under their own Codex :( I'm mired in other budgetary issues so don't have a rulebook yet... I know... the shame... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3116779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I...don't have a rulebook yet... I know... the shame... D: <-- Thade's horrified face. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3116782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted July 10, 2012 Author Share Posted July 10, 2012 We have a rulebook between us. I've not got it yet. :( Hmmm, so 2 Plasma Pistols, or a cheaper Plasma Gun (which can be shot once at longer range, or twice at the same range as the Pistols). I think I might just buy a Plasma Gun and Daemonblade, and counts-as my two pistols. But then I can't shot and assault. :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3116788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 But then I can't shot and assault. :/ Neither can your three plasma gun toting warriors, 3 plasma cannon servitors, or your two+ lascannon armored jokaero, but I don't think the pile of ashes you just created is going to talk to you about it... :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3116792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted July 10, 2012 Author Share Posted July 10, 2012 No, no, no. Mustn't be drawn into using henchmen! ;) GK all the way! :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3116801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr Shepard Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 INP, didn't the gunslinger rule in 6th. change that so that now any model with 2 pistols can fire both? Phil Rulebook, pag. 52 :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3116823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 No, no, no. Mustn't be drawn into using henchmen! http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq70/Myen_Shi/2012update2-squat.jpg But we're so cute and fluffy! :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3116827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!! MY EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3117249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 Is that a, Squat? /reset :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256092-inquisitors-and-divination/#findComment-3117521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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