bob10182 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Well I'm sure that someone has probably posted this already or a variant of it but I'm finally going to play sixth edition and I wanted to try out some new stuff. I'm not going to give you a full list but basically ai use a Thunderwolf Lord with two other Thunderwolves, Skyclaws with a Wolf Priest, Long Fangs with Missle Launchers and a Plasma Cannon, and 3 full squads of Grey Hunters plus another hals squad with a Razorback. The change of course was my three Grey Hunters that used to be led by Wolf Guard in Rhinos with an occasional Rune Priest. So now I'm running this: Grey Hunter Squadx2 10 Grey Hunters Plasma Pistol Plasma Gunx2 Wolf Standard Mark of the Wulfen Power Axe Wolf Guardx2 Plasma Pistol Frost Axe Rune Preist with one and Wolf Priest with the other, I also run a squad that has a melta, with a wolf guard with combi-melta and they are in a drop pod. Now after reading some of your articeles and the rules, I'm highly considering running Saga of the Hunter with the Wolf Priest and outflanking. Plus the Rune Priest can take Prescience and Storm Caller to help out footslogging Grey Hunters. So lets hear some arguments or ideas. I'm just curious about any experience. I know that most missions have linebreaker as an additional objective and outlfanking would definitely put a touch resilient fearless unit in the enemy's backfield. Plus a ton of plasma is very helpful while re-rolling ones. Anyway, thanks for any corrections or comments. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256830-grey-hunters/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Plus the Rune Priest can take Prescience and Storm Caller I believe its either/or. Either you keep to the SW psychic powers (where you get to choose), or you choose the new powers (where you roll and hope for what you want). I'm finding myself wanting to take more plasma also (where previously I preferred meltas) and have a very strong desire to convert a pack of GHs to be very catachan-wolfscout esque to be used for Outflanking along with a Wolf Priest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256830-grey-hunters/#findComment-3125053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob10182 Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 Plus the Rune Priest can take Prescience and Storm Caller I believe its either/or. Either you keep to the SW psychic powers (where you get to choose), or you choose the new powers (where you roll and hope for what you want). I'm finding myself wanting to take more plasma also (where previously I preferred meltas) and have a very strong desire to convert a pack of GHs to be very catachan-wolfscout esque to be used for Outflanking along with a Wolf Priest. Ok, thanks for the information on the two powers and after reading the FAQ it does say take two in amy combination from the three disciplines listed. I would still go with Divination since the primaris power helps make Plasma weapons more useful. I am really do like the idea of a large Grey Hunter squad outflanking. I'm a little torn on my melta squad now and it may be put into a rhino instead of a drop pod. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256830-grey-hunters/#findComment-3125059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Dammit Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 why a poweraxe over the sword or fist? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256830-grey-hunters/#findComment-3125163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 why a poweraxe over the sword or fist? Kind of the best of both worlds- get the extra attack as the PW but kill things at AP 2 of the fist, for the cheaper price of the powerweapon. Since its not on a character, its hidden... Though Id do a Frostblade over an Axe, because Id rather strike at I in challenges against other sarges. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256830-grey-hunters/#findComment-3125227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantinel Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Power Axe is the perfect weapon for Grey Hunters. See the comparison: vs Power Sword: + additional strenght + AP 2 instead of AP 3 - it's INI 1 which isn't a big concern as GH with Axe cannot be challenged out vs Power Fist + Axe is cheaper by 10 points + you get 2 base attacks instead of 1 - str 8 vs str 5, no instant dead, doesn't ignore FNP as fist on most units The fact that you hit vehicles on 3's in close combat and walkers on WS with grenades means that you no longer require mandatory Power Fists in squads. Also now you don't need a good penetration roll to bring vehicles down, few glances (which krak grenades provide) are sufficient. Best thing is that now you can use kraks even against monstrous creatures! Fists on Power Armoured Wolf Guard leaders are not so great anymore. They can get challenged out by and killed before having a chance to strike. On Terminator Wolf Guard leaders, it's a different story, you can take fists for additional punch. Nevertheless I prefer relatively cheap Power Axe / Storm Shield combo for my Terminator Wolf Guard leaders in a foot army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256830-grey-hunters/#findComment-3125235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbin484 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Just curious, may seem a stupid question but why in 6th is plasma such a must have? I realise with the change to rapid fire it makes the guns better than meltas but why the must on plasma pistols? Am I missing something? Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256830-grey-hunters/#findComment-3125385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Dammit Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 taking down +2 saves, you used to do that with powerweapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256830-grey-hunters/#findComment-3125390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Just curious, may seem a stupid question but why in 6th is plasma such a must have? I realise with the change to rapid fire it makes the guns better than meltas but why the must on plasma pistols? Am I missing something? Thanks taking down +2 saves, you used to do that with powerweapons. What Max said since anything but an axe or fist is too weak for tda/armor, but also, Wolf Priests are making a comeback to allow Overwatch and Snap Fire rerolls, due to the greatest bonus, with Preferred Enemy now allowed for both melee AND shooting. Pretty much negates all those pesky Gets Hot! rolls. Also, any character model can designate their shots on a 6, so if that shot is with a plasma pistol (or two) you can pretty much guarantee whoever you designate is a large grease stain afterward. This means WGPLs and LWs too, who both can make use of the new Gunslinger rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256830-grey-hunters/#findComment-3125405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbin484 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Cool, thanks for the fast replies and clearing that up for me. May have to swap one of my rune priests for a wolf priest!! Hmmmm! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256830-grey-hunters/#findComment-3125413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob10182 Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 Yeah the Preferred enemy rules definitely shifted me towards plasma. Everyone else pretty much explaned the frsot axe and power axe reasons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256830-grey-hunters/#findComment-3125449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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