CitadelArmyGuy Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 I'm pretty sure this is open and shut case, but I need community confirmation. At 2000+ pts, if you take 2 HQ and 2 other Troops, can you take 2 Death Company units (without taking Astorath)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256978-double-foc-death-company/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicJ Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 I dont think theres any "official" rules for 2 FOC 40k uses one FoC Apoc uses none (I think) but even if we disregard that No! Death Comp are ONE only. They are herded together, pointed at the enemy and unleashed You wouldnt take two Sanguinors for example, or two Dantes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256978-double-foc-death-company/#findComment-3126873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.darkness Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 There are ow rules for a double FOC at 2k and above in the 6th edition rules/ As for the ruling itself, I don't have my codex on me ATM, but I feel that if it says one only then you are stuck with one, because it doesn't mean one per FOC, but it means one per army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256978-double-foc-death-company/#findComment-3126882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Admetus Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Nope, as the Death Company is a 0-1 choice per army, not per Force Org chart, would be my answer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256978-double-foc-death-company/#findComment-3126884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Yup yup. FOC = / = Army We may only have one DC in our army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256978-double-foc-death-company/#findComment-3126923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitadelArmyGuy Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 Yup yup. FOC = / = Army We may only have one DC in our army. Roger that! It was the ruling I was expecting and just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. Lock it, bag and tag it :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256978-double-foc-death-company/#findComment-3126941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 We dont lock threads without reason at the BnC. We just let em fade away into obscurity. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256978-double-foc-death-company/#findComment-3126953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leksington Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 We dont lock threads without reason at the BnC. We just let em fade away into obscurity. :) Unless someone mentions Squats. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256978-double-foc-death-company/#findComment-3127084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nachocuban Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 We dont lock threads without reason at the BnC. We just let em fade away into obscurity. :pinch: Unless someone mentions Squats. :blink: Burn the Heretic! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256978-double-foc-death-company/#findComment-3128507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 We dont lock threads without reason at the BnC. We just let em fade away into obscurity. :) Unless someone mentions Squats. :) Why would leg exercises have anything to do with this? Or are your DC preparing to foot slog? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256978-double-foc-death-company/#findComment-3132848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Landrain Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 As a corollary to this, If you do include Astorath, you will be able to have up to 12 DC units :lol: So 2 squads of 30, and 10 DC Dreads... With the changes to rage, would be interesting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256978-double-foc-death-company/#findComment-3133088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
latch66 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 As a corollary to this, If you do include Astorath, you will be able to have up to 12 DC units :lol:So 2 squads of 30, and 10 DC Dreads... With the changes to rage, would be interesting. Ouch! That would be fun to watch. I guess you could call it "lunatic fringe". ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256978-double-foc-death-company/#findComment-3133093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus-Alaska Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 As a corollary to this, If you do include Astorath, you will be able to have up to 12 DC units ;)So 2 squads of 30, and 10 DC Dreads... With the changes to rage, would be interesting. I am officially confused. as I am looking at the dex right now, I am not seeing how 10 DC dreads could be taken. with Astorath you remove the 0-1 limit. so that means you could potentially have 180 DC on the table. 181 if you count Lemartes. that many DC would be crazy ^_^ without Astorath, you could have 30+1, if you include Lemartes. PLUS you can include 1 DC dread for every five DC in your army..........that is 6 for the non-math inclined. the problam is, the DCD takes a troop choice slot in your army. I say this because the standard precedent is the special entry option for a slot choice is always in a shaded box, in the choice description. DCD's are not that way, so it's a FOC slot per dread I'm afraid. you can actually take more DCD's with out Astorath. (2x DC x30, 4DCDS) with the standard army list. but, could you imagine if they were add-ons to the DC, with Astorath, you could field 180 DC, Lemartes, AND 36 DC dreads. thats an Apocalypse army all by itself.... but this is why I play Apocalypse only anymore. I like to do what I want. I'm sorry if this busts bubbles but I have to do it. a kid with too much money tried nerfing the army list almost just like this a few weeks ago, we all laughed so hard hejoined a different league. cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256978-double-foc-death-company/#findComment-3133228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 In a single FOC you can have 1 troops choice of 30 death company, which then allows you to take 5 further troops choices of a single DC dreadnought. Take Astorath, and at 2,000pt or more you have double the potential troops choices available since you now have a second FOC. So yes, you can do 2 x 30DC troopers and then 10 x DC dreadnought. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256978-double-foc-death-company/#findComment-3133337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus-Alaska Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Oh, ha ha, I see. I forgot about the 2000pt kicker. yeah I can see how that would be pretty beast. Matt Ward strikes again, I guess! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256978-double-foc-death-company/#findComment-3133390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonet40k Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 You can even do it with 25 DC and 5 DCD's, as you only need 5 DC models per Dreadnought... Astaroth, 2 x 25 DC (W/ 1 PW per sqd) & 10 DCD is only 2500pts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256978-double-foc-death-company/#findComment-3133978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 There is one thing that causes this kind of confusion IMO. I was looking through my textbook and it doesn't say that you get a second FOC but rather doubles the slots in your current FOC and describes it as a seperate 'detachment.' Now maybe I'm not reading the right section but there seems to be a lot of confusion based on this 2nd FOC idea that I can't find... ...and now somebody will point out how I'm a moron. I'm a moron. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256978-double-foc-death-company/#findComment-3134377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 But at least you're a moron who knows he's a moron... I've met plenty who dont know that, so you're one up on the competition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256978-double-foc-death-company/#findComment-3135068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastellanDeMolay Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Buddha teaches that a fool who knows he is a fool has walked further on the path to enlightenment than even the wisest of men, if that's any consolation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/256978-double-foc-death-company/#findComment-3135086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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