Haakon Ironheart Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Hello Brothers, I am thinking of fielding my Minotaurs as a full Death Company army (1500pts) using Ivanus Encomi as Astorath. I 'd like to use a Storm raven, a DC dreadnought and 1-2 Land Raiders. I would not like to use many jumpackers. My second option would be a mixed army of Terminators, Death Company, Astorath, scouts, bikers and a Land Raider/Storm raven. Would that be better? My objective is to have a nice fluffy army which can compete adequately and provide me with new tactical challenges. Any advice or suggestions will be greatly appreciated as my 20 years of experience in 40k is mostly about Space Wolves and Chaos. You can find my army so far by clicking the link below... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257026-using-my-minotaurs-as-a-death-company-army/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Hello Brothers, I am thinking of fielding my Minotaurs as a full Death Company army (1500pts) using Ivanus Encomi as Astorath. I 'd like to use a Storm raven, a DC dreadnought and 1-2 Land Raiders. I would not like to use many jumpackers. My second option would be a mixed army of Terminators, Death Company, Astorath, scouts, bikers and a Land Raider/Storm raven. Would that be better? My objective is to have a nice fluffy army which can compete adequately and provide me with new tactical challenges. Any advice or suggestions will be greatly appreciated as my 20 years of experience in 40k is mostly about Space Wolves and Chaos. You can find my army so far by clicking the link below... Well, a few things: - Ivanus Enkomi doesn't have a JP, while Astorath does. So you'd have to include a unit of jump-packed DC or put him and the unit in the Stormraven. Nontheless, you'd have to model Enkomi with a JP. Not sure if you wanted to spoil such a nice model. :D - Our Terminators have to pay +5 points per thunderhammer&stormshield, just so you know. It has become better since we now can actually use the 2+ armour save, but still. - Scouts are quite mediocre. We don't have a guy like Telion who can actually make sniper scouts badass, and we don't have a Land Speeder Storm, so you'd have to ally with C:SM to get one(or your buddies won't mind you using it!). - The DC dread has lost some of its efficiency since Blood Talons are AP3 now, but has gained an extra attack to make up for it. As long as you can avoid terminators, you'll be fine. I'm not sure how competitive this army will be, however. If you kit them out, DC aren't that cheap anymore and once a Raider is gone, the DC will be as well soon. You'd want some Chappies in there besides Astorath, which costs you some points again. Without JP, you'll ignore a lot from C:BA that gives us strength. then, the whole fluff aspect...might be better off using regular assault squads instead of DC. They get a discount on vehicles and will represent the cc-featured nature of the Minotaurs good enough. Since Land Raiders are dedicated transports in our 'dex, you can save yourself some points here. :D DC are killer. I can't think of any Space Marine unit in the 40k universe that can compare to them game-wise and fluff-wise. Their special rules are too unique for me to see it happening with other armies. But hey, that's just my opinion. Snorri Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257026-using-my-minotaurs-as-a-death-company-army/#findComment-3127654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCommanderSamirus Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 - Ivanus Enkomi doesn't have a JP, while Astorath does. So you'd have to include a unit of jump-packed DC or put him and the unit in the Stormraven. Nontheless, you'd have to model Enkomi with a JP. Not sure if you wanted to spoil such a nice model. :) I believe he has the option to take a jump pack. -Samirus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257026-using-my-minotaurs-as-a-death-company-army/#findComment-3127919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I think Astorath in the lead is going to be a necessity! Especially for a DC army. The issue you may find is that BA are quite expensive :( How about the following: As your core: Astorath DC Dread 8 DC - Fist, Rhino 8 DC - Fist, Rhino 10 Scouts- Rifles, 1ML Raven (this is 1165 leaving you 335) You can use 215 of that for 5terms with 3 hammers and then the rest on bikers? The first option Astorath 6 Terms- 4Hammers DC Dread 10 DC - Fist Raider 10 DC - Hammer 10 Scouts -9SR, 1ML Raven I don't see the combo being particularly strong at 1500 to be honest - especially not with lack of Jump guards for Asty. I'd sooner look to something like this (but then unsure of it's success or your interest in the structure/fluff of it): Astorath Priest - JP, PW 8 RAS - MG, TH 8 DC - Fist Rhino 8 DC - Fist Rhino 7 DC - Axe Rhino DC Dread Raven Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257026-using-my-minotaurs-as-a-death-company-army/#findComment-3128293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haakon Ironheart Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 Thanks a lot for your advice and suggestions...Thinking again about it I might use the full potential of BA in order to take advantage of some really good units. They will give me the opportunity to fully convert my army...Stay tuned to my blog, I already finished my Minotaurs "count as" Mephiston...^_^ Some bikers are on the way as well... ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257026-using-my-minotaurs-as-a-death-company-army/#findComment-3128397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haakon Ironheart Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 Thanks a lot for your advice and suggestions...Thinking again about it I might use the full potential of BA in order to take advantage of some really good units. They will give me the opportunity to fully convert my army...Stay tuned to my blog, I already finished my Minotaurs "count as" Mephiston...^_^ Some bikers are on the way as well... ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257026-using-my-minotaurs-as-a-death-company-army/#findComment-3128398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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