Aurr Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Hi there, first of all, I'm not sure if I'm posting this in the right section of the forum ( tried using " search " to see where and if there are more posts about this particular subject, found none sofar ), if not, apologies in advance. Secondly, English is not my main language, so please have patience with any hick-ups in spelling and sentenc(e)ing :P On topic: Being a fan of the HH series like most of you, I had this ongoing discussion with a friend of mine about how cool ( or not cool ) it would be if the HH serie got converted into motion picture if there were sufficient funds for it. The following topics where raised, and I thought it would be nice to see what veterans like you guys would think about it :wink: : * Movie chain or tv series: Being a fan of both, I find this a tricky one. With movies, you can go onto the big screen, reaching a wider audience, have the really cool actors, etc. Downside ( at least to me ) is the part that in movies, you can't really give the depth and development of characters and storyline. Another downside to movies ( which can turn positive though ) is the time required to make them. With tv series, you can go indepth on characters and storyline, you have a weekly / 2 weekly " to be continued " to keep the fans from going " Angron " style :D . Downside might be sloppiness cause of the timeframe series get shot, lower budget, etc. * Real actors or Animated: This is also a tricky one...on one hand, I would love to see some of my favorite actors playing the roles of the primarchs ( coming to that later ) and the hero's / villains of the stories. Only problem to that, is you can do only so much with the rescources at hand. Yes we have CGI and stuff, but still...With the movies/series animated, you can really do ANYTHING. No need for funky stunts, funky camera play like LotR, and you can really make it as dark and gritty and dirty as you like. ( Think Final Fantasy movies or DoW intro's. ) * Script writer(s): For me, that's a no-brainer: ADB together with Graham McNeill. Most of you will probably brand me for a Heretic for not including Dan Abnett, but in my opinion, mister Abnett is the weakest writer concerning Space Marine stories / sagas, and to me, he should stick to Imperial Guard novels. No offence. * The Horus Heresy itself: what to include and what not. Let's face it, the HH is HUGE! So many stories, so many subplots, so many things all at once...what would you actually cover? This by far is the hardest part of what you actually want to show. The friend I was having this discussion with, said they should do the first 3 books, and I have to agree to it to some extent. It's pretty straight forward, it sticks to the bulk of the fluff at hand, and it won't confuse people too much that haven't read any ( or all ) of the books sofar, but still know the key things they get from their corebook / codex fluff. I would, however, include material from " A Thousand Sons " and " Know no Fear " ( haven't read the latter yet, only heard things from said friend ), since to me, they describe two very imortant moments in the HH saga. * Bonus discussion: The Primarchs and their portraying actors. This is the discussion we had the most, and the most fun with, and was also very tricky, due to the nature and personality of the Primarchs. If there is ever going to be above discussion topic, who would play who? My personal favorites sofar: Lion El'Jonson: Alexander Skarsgard IMDB Fulgrim: Nikolaj Coster-Waldau IMDB Perturabo: Vin Diesel ( by lack of anyone <_< ) Jaghatai Khan: Ken Watanabe IMDB Leman Russ: Sean Bean Rogal Dorn: To be honest, no idea Konrad Curze: Nicolas Cage Sanguinius: eighter Chris Hemsworth ( dude that plays Thor ) or Brad Pitt Ferrus Manus: Ray Stevenson Angron: Now here's where the fun starts :devil: eighter Tom Hardy, Jason Statham, Vinnie Jones, Russel Crowe, Ray Stevenson or a beefed up wrestler with actual acting skills. Roboute Guilliman: Iain Glen IMDB Mortarion: Liam Neeson Magnus the Red: Absolutely no idea Horus: Jim Caviezel ( by lack of anyone ) Lorgar: Michael Cerveris IMDB Vulkan: Michael Duncan Clarke Corvus Corax: Christian Bale Alpharius Omegon: Absolutely no idea Well, this is the end of the topic...hoping to see some replies to see what your thoughts are about it :) Cya around :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Vaddon Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 I think with the advent of direct studio-produced movies, like Forward Unto Dawn (which looks pretty good for having been handled by MS itself), GW could actually go that route. Pick up lesser known actors (there was at least Stargate actor I saw in the Dawn trailer, Varro from SGU) to get similar talent. I doubt that the HH would ever come to the big screen, though - the concept of god-like beings as generals in context of the 40k universe is not something that I think would be immediately appreciated or even appealing to the wider audience. I can, however, see a Band of Brothers/Name a War movie style film/tv series to kick things off for the Warhammer big-screen productions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3129093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Leman Russ: Sean Bean Problem : Leman Russ was one of the last of the Primarchs to die. Sean Bean always plays a character who dies early in a production. Sean Bean can not play Leman Russ... :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3129101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Tent Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Leman Russ: Sean Bean Problem : Leman Russ was one of the last of the Primarchs to die. Sean Bean always plays a character who dies early in a production. Sean Bean can not play Leman Russ... :tu: Sean Bean should be Ferrus, first to go, as is Sean Bean in numerous things Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3129120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 rogal dorn gota be russel crowe or hugh jackman Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3129124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.J. Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Rogal Dorn should be played by Brock Lesnar........or some other meat head. Big, arrogant, and not really good at what he does. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3129169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Sean Bean actually fits the personality of Rogal Dorn best. He's quite intense. However, I don't think I can take this thread suggestions serious since the roles look a little off to the personalities of the Primarchs: Nicholas Cage as Night Haunter? Really? Nicholas Cage shouldn't ever have become an actor let alone being caste playing a character based upon the one played by Marlon Brando in one of the greatest films of all time! :huh: If I'm going to be honest, I'm not sure on whether this is board appropriate, as I just know it will go off on a tangent by the time I've finished typing this post! As such, I will keep an eye on this thread as will, I suspect, other mods. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3129171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Vaddon Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I can see the Perturabo-Dorn arguments already: One cannot...simply...walk into one of my fortresses! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3129403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 First of all, liam neeson is the emperor. PERIOD. Secondly, whoever called Dorn a meathead will soon be having a close encounter of the crusading kind by some men in black. Thirdly, Ferrus is an always condescending, sneering bald man, therefore he should be played by jason statham. Fourthly, Vin diesel should not be in this list. He can play as extra marine number seven or something. Fifthly, Nicholas cage is crazy enough to be Curze, lol Sixthly (making up words now), leman russ should be played by the guy who played leonidas. Honestly, this movie should be animated. You'd be using cgi 65 percent of the time anyway in a live action movie. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3129426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Vaddon Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 No, I agree with the Cap'n. Nicholas Cage sucks. Period. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3129449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 How about Brock Lesner as Angeron, Ron Perlman as Magnus, Vigo Mortensin as Logar,(Have you seen the Prophecy) Stellan Skarsgård as Leman Russ(think Arthur) Sean Beaan as Rogal Dorn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3129459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Rogal Dorn should be played by Brock Lesnar........or some other meat head. Big, arrogant, and not really good at what he does. Item Primaris, Brock was a World Heavyweight Champion in both mixed martial arts and professional wrestling, so I am unsure how you can claim he is "not really good at what he does". Unless you're referring to his quixotic attempt to be an NFL player. Item Secundus, as of the release of Horus Rising, by Dan Abnett, Rogal Dorn officially, in canon has the finest military mind of any of the primarchs, so you're way off base there too. Item Tertius, while I agree we should look to the Prophecy to find our Curze, I don't think it should be Aragon. I believe we need a combination of Christopher Walken and Special Effects. Basically how they made the Neil Gaiman Beowulf movie. "Sometimes, I rip the heads off little girls, and the only thing you can count on, from now till the end of the universe, is never knowing WHY! Come join the Night Lords! I can get you in, you'll love it! You can stay up late, eat ice cream every night, and KILL for all eternity! " Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3129476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 what do you think about chuck norris as Emperor? :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3129627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Lightstar Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 To clarify, ANY post that seriously mentions Nick Cage loses ALL of it's credibility, he should be incarcerated for crimes against entertainment (not convinced? Watch National Treasure 1 or 2). Rik Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3129696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfkry Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 if im not mistaken there was a thread such as this about 2-3 years ago... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3129903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Kezef Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 If game of thrones is any judge, this could work Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3129911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Yeesh, the nick cage thing was a joke guys chill out Wade Garret, Curze played by Walken is hilariously awesome! :angry: I can see Ron perlman as magnus or even pertuabo as he's pretty good at playing as a misunderstood character. Hell he'd even be a great vulkan (salamanders =/= people of african descent). In fact, james earl jones could make a great horus (remember, i'm thinking cgi wise). Emperor- liam neeson Horus- James Earl Jones Curze- christopher walken Ferrus mannus- jason statham Magnus- ron perlman Guillman- patrick stewart Corax- viggo mortensen Russ- Brian Blessed Pertuabo- michael clarke duncan Fulgrim- Robert Downey jr. Angron- Gerard Butler Dorn- sean bean Sanguinis- Bruce willis? Vulkan- Hugo weaving Lorgar- Samuel L. Jackson Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3130160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Much as I think this sort of subject is, well, naff, doesn't go anywhere and is essentially wishlisting, I feel like throwing my hat in the ring. :( IMHO, it would be better that this was a CGI venture as opposed to being filmed as having actors that are possibly octogenarians or older portray a primarch sounds kinda silly without the aid of computer animation, so we might as well go the whole hog. Also, I would much prefer a serial rather than a feature as you can spread the stories out and not be confined to a single narrative. Who should write it? A D-B is a popular choice and not one I'd eschew tbh but there are many great script writers out there that could do a wonderful job: Damon Lindelof for example has produced some great scripts in recent years (maybe not flawless, but great nonetheless); the Nolan Brothers are another great example, handling the Batman trilogy, imho, expertly. I wouldn't rule out the likes of Joss Whedon, either, as fertile a mind his is. Angron: Now here's where the fun starts ;) eighter Tom Hardy, Jason Statham, Vinnie Jones, Russel Crowe, Ray Stevenson or a beefed up wrestler with actual acting skills. Tom Hardy. Out of that group he's got the most ability to play differing roles well (Crowe has played a few differing roles well but I can't shake the fact that it's Crowe on the screen, not the character he's playing). Hardy's a proper character actor, I think, and can change his body mass to fit whatever his next role requires. Ron Perlman as Magnus, Doesn't sound right to me. Ron Perlman as Malcador, though, that would be cool. Fits him to a T. For Magnus, I'd be inclined to say have Jeremy Irons for him. I think he has the right kind of gravitas that Magnus needs (voice-wise). if im not mistaken there was a thread such as this about 2-3 years ago... There's a thread on this on a yearly basis, if not more so. It's quite a common subject, really. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3130210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkbubba Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I remember this from last year, but my casting has changed: emperor-liam neeson malcador-derek jacoby/sir ian mckellan/christopher lee dorn-sean bean leman russ-hugh jackman, viggo mortenson, chris hemsworth gulliman-christian bale, simon baker vulkan-laurence fishburne khan-ken watanabe/cary -hiroyuki tagawa (evil sorceror from mortal kombat) sanguinius-brad pitt because of his achilles in troy ferrus manus- ray stevenson curze-willem dafoe, gary oldman, ralph fiennes horus-russell crowe, chris pine lorgar colin farell fulgrim jason issacs angron-ron perman corax-alexander skarsgard that's all i got Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3130416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Vaddon Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 @Olisredan If Joss Wheedon could be persuaded to take a break from Marvel and write a 40k film...holy crap. HOLY CRAP. INSTAJIZZ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3130433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 chuck norris could not play the emperor ...the empoere made mistakes chuck just cann't (shed's a tear just a thought of chuck's awsomeness) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3130518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelCommissar Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I have to say that Jason Isaacs as Fulgrim is an inspired choice. For Lorgar, I would think that Tom Hiddlestone could do a job. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3130553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinks Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 chuck norris could not play the emperor ...the empoere made mistakes chuck just cann't (shed's a tear just a thought of chuck's awsomeness) Someone shoot clanfield please. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3130560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calgar 2.0 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Leman Russ - Peter Stormare B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3130595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I had to think of Sanguinius when seeing Emanuele de Santi, but maybe it was just the hair and the imagery. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257141-what-if-horus-heresy-movie-chainhbo-series/#findComment-3130604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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