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Angron= Ray Stevenson (I always imagine him as Angron while reading the novels)

Malcador= Sir Anthony Hopkins

Khârn= Temuera Morrison

Fulgrim= Johnny Depp

Alpharius= Mads Mikkelsen (Second Hannibal Lecter on my list smile.png He can potray an enigmatic bad guy very well)

Ferrus Manus= Michael Chiklis

Vulkan= Ving Rhames

Rogal Dorn= Stephen Lang

Kondrad Curze= Tom Hardy (As Bronson and Bane he showed that he could play some pretty big bad dudes

Tom Hardy all the way, but only if he does the whole cockney nut job routine! I wanna see curze cracking skulls while eating jellied eals

 

I love how these always turn into which game of thrones character would be which Primarch.

Sean Bean for someone. Preferably someone who dies, so we can take out pick of several.

 

I say have him as Ferrus Manus. 

Having the primarch of the Iron Hands speaking in a broad Sheffield accent somehow seems "right" to me. Plus, he's good at playing the heroic death scenes...

James Earl Jones as the Emperor.

 

I know.. I know... he's not the big E in the looks department, but....

 

Bear with me...

 

remember the scene in Thousand Sons where the Emp walks down the Dais. Golden radiance blinding to all but the strongest minds. His gaze turn's to the Red King and the force of his will pushes Magnus back in his seat. A battle of wills in which one side, although immensely powerful instant buckles under the unstoppable weight of the Golden Being closing in on him.

 

The secrets within the vastly complex mind of the Primarch unravels and are laid bare before it's creator. In that instant he knows. A shift seems to happen. Subtle at first, but then it turns clear to all... disappointment. Then his words come....

 

'"Woe betide he who ignores my warning or breaks faith with me. He shall be my enemy, and I will visit such destruction upon him and all his followers that, until the end of all things, he shall rue the day he turned from my light."

 

A lasting look of disappointment washes over is ever changing features. Eyes, once forever loving turn dark and harsh, like the endless pit of the abyss. With a stare that the great Great Magnus can not escape from he adds...

 

"If you treat with the Warp, Magnus, I shall visit destruction upon you. And your Legion's name will be struck from the Imperial records for all time"

 

close your eyes...

 

Did you hear James Earl Jones? I hope so. .... because I hear nothing else.

 

Change his look if you want, have him shift from indescribable features if you will, but the voice... the voice.. there is only 1 option.

Why everybody using black actors as Vulkan? verymad.gif Vulkan is not ethnically black. His skin mutated, or burned from Nocturne atmosphere. It should be white actor changed with computer effects.

This sounds like the beginning of that whole "controversy" about Black Heimdall from the Thor movie...

Also, I was under the impression that while the Salamanders started out as having literally coal-black (as opposed to human skin tone black), it is now accepted that their skin tone is just natural human skin black. So black actors would be appropriate here. That said, an HBO Horus Heresy would be an atrocity. Although I still kind of want to see it.

Nah, this is worse. Doing this would literally be modern blackface. Even if the original character isn't of that genetic heritage, it would be seen as blackface.

Please, no.... HBO would butcher it into becoming a softcore porn series about the Emperor and Sisters of Silence.

Now, now, you make it sound as if the source material of GoT had no sexytimes. Which it did. Unless you're referring to something other than GoT. In which case I apologise until I'm more familiar with that series.

Why everybody using black actors as Vulkan? verymad.gif Vulkan is not ethnically black. His skin mutated, or burned from Nocturne atmosphere. It should be white actor changed with computer effects.

This sounds like the beginning of that whole "controversy" about Black Heimdall from the Thor movie...

Also, I was under the impression that while the Salamanders started out as having literally coal-black (as opposed to human skin tone black), it is now accepted that their skin tone is just natural human skin black. So black actors would be appropriate here. That said, an HBO Horus Heresy would be an atrocity. Although I still kind of want to see it.

Nah, this is worse. Doing this would literally be modern blackface. Even if the original character isn't of that genetic heritage, it would be seen as blackface.

>Please, no.... HBO would butcher it into becoming a softcore porn series about the Emperor and Sisters of Silence.

Now, now, you make it sound as if the source material of GoT had no sexytimes. Which it did. Unless you're referring to something other than GoT. In which case I apologise until I'm more familiar with that series.

Regarding your second point, I think WatchCaptainAzrael is referring to HBO's general policy of sexifying their content. The GoT books certainly have their share of sex, but there are times in the show when one asks themself "did that monologue really require those two anonymous naked women? Probably not."

It would actually be kind of interesting to see HBO take on such a remarkably de-sexualized setting as 40k. Maybe they would just make up for it with gratuitous, horrible violence, which would probably suit all of us just fine :)

Regarding your second point, I think WatchCaptainAzrael is referring to HBO's general policy of sexifying their content. The GoT books certainly have their share of sex, but there are times in the show when one asks themself "did that monologue really require those two anonymous naked women? Probably not."

Bovus hit the nail on the head. Call me a prude, but I tend to lose interest in series if they have to do gratuitous sexy times to carry them. Funnily enough, I actually like the GoT when it's not busy detailing the erm.. "creative" part of the cycle of life.

Granted, if Dan Abnett was a consultant to the series, we'd have our fair share of marine full frontal nudity and mid-battle stress sexy times. tongue.png

Regarding your second point, I think WatchCaptainAzrael is referring to HBO's general policy of sexifying their content. The GoT books certainly have their share of sex, but there are times in the show when one asks themself "did that monologue really require those two anonymous naked women? Probably not."

Bovus hit the nail on the head. Call me a prude, but I tend to lose interest in series if they have to do gratuitous sexy times to carry them. Funnily enough, I actually like the GoT when it's not busy detailing the erm.. "creative" part of the cycle of life.

Granted, if Dan Abnett was a consultant to the series, we'd have our fair share of marine full frontal nudity and mid-battle stress sexy times. tongue.png

GoT isn't over the top. The sex scenes (that are few and far between) are hardly gratuitous. You have to remember that it's a different era then the one we live in now. Built on our history, it's more akin to a myraid of distant time frames, all of them more lax and in harmony to the human body.

If you have ever been to italy you'd understand. Busts if nude males and females is common. The puritan hang-up's we have now would be just as odd to them i would think.

Besides have you watched an episode of Sparticus? According to that series humans have 80 gallons of blood in their bodies that explodes in a shower of hydrodynamic displays when the slightest injury is applied. Also in ancient Rome group orgies happened randomly on street corners and cussing like a salior was required.

The Lion = Brad Pitt. Remember the movie Troy? Remember how he almost killed his own men, with darkness in his eyes? remember the look in his face when he realized what he was doing? That was a perfect Lion El'Jonson

 

Michael Dorn = Vulcan I mean it's worf... come on!

Terry Crews for Vulkan. I know it doesn't fit, just . . . Think about it for a second. Let the hilariously ridiculousness of it sink in. Come to think of it, he'd be a great addition to a cast that takes Gilbert Gottfried for Erebus for granted.

 

Actually, that might be a fun game. How ridiculous a character can you come up with?

 

Tommy Wiseau for Konrad Curze.

 

Terry Crews for Vulkan. I know it doesn't fit, just . . . Think about it for a second. Let the hilariously ridiculousness of it sink in. Come to think of it, he'd be a great addition to a cast that takes Gilbert Gottfried for Erebus for granted.

 

Actually, that might be a fun game. How ridiculous a character can you come up with?

 

Tommy Wiseau for Konrad Curze.

Keanu Reaves as the Emperor... I win.

 

Theodore S Esquire as the master of mankind? Whoooooa Magnus you are totally bogus.

  • 5 months later...

"Lion El'Jonson: Alexander Skarsgard"

YES. Absolutely, that's always how I "cast" him when I read him in  the books. If Andreas Katsulas were still with us, he would have made an absolutely perfect Magnus, I think. 

 

 

It would cost billions, have no viewers, and be forever referred to as: "The show that was as gay as Top Gun; where were all the women, anyway?"

That´s why this is a forum thread and not a film.

 

 

It's a forum thread discussing how it would work as a film or a TV series. That's the whole, entire, absolute premise.

The context in which I'm doing something as silly as replying to your comment over a year after you wrote it is, strangely, the counter-example I'd enlist against it. Ok. That made no sense. Here's what I mean, though:

 

What brought me to this thread is that I'm up late reading "Unremembered Empire." While I have a very crisp "mentally casted" sense of the Lion in my head (for me its Alexander Skarsgard but Stannis Baratheon's theme from GoT strikes up everytime he walks in the room and/or broods) * I don't really have a sense of Guilliman. As these two somewhat huge figures appear together, it feels like having one fully realized actor on my mental stage interacting with an amorphous cobalt and gold fog. 

 

So in short, the reason I'm up perusing (and now participating in) this thread isn't because I think that an HBO HH series would really be viable (erm, well, maybe 'Fulgrim?' Sorry, sorry...) or that a Hollywood-ized HH film or film series would be either good or feasible . . . but because these fan-casts can be kind of a fun, and even sort of helpful reading activity. And maybe that's just me?

 

Don't get me wrong - I would have to have a pretty odd (and kind of funny ) mental disorder with the implication that I can't get through a work of fiction without first scrutinizing IMDB for an appropriate and well-hallucinated cast. But just for the sake of it, in this one case, and for whatever silly reason, my wretched imagination happens to renders Lion El'Jonson as Eric from True Blood . And, hell. I might as well have fun sorting out the face and voice of the being he's talking to. Not calling any casting agents. Just that and that alone. 

 

* Ever since "Savage Weapons," actually. (Sorry again ;) )

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