I_Iconoclast Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 The Blood Dragons Blood Dragons Battle-Brother [img; background-image:url(http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/hq2.gif); background-repeat: no-repeat; background-position: 8px 2px; padding: 12px 8px 12px 8px; border: 1px solid #DDD; margin-left: 0 auto; text-align: left; color: #fff; text-indent:50px; font-size:130%; width:50%;">http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/sm.php?b62c=@iakk7_ia3h6_@@_@@@_@@@@_iafZK@@@@@@@@@@@@@__@@@@@@@@@@hLL1khFXoa@@@@@@@@@@@___@&[/img] Date:...............763.M41Ref:................LBC//NevBy:.................NevariusRe:.................Adeptus Astartes - Blood DragonsThought:............"Shock and awe" more than a tactic for The Blood DragonsThey fight with the ferocity of the dragons of myth, of course on Ansilvaan they are more than myth.http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/hq2.gif); background-repeat: no-repeat; background-position: 8px 2px; padding: 12px 8px 12px 8px; border: 1px solid #DDD; margin-left: 0 auto; text-align: left; color: #fff; text-indent:50px; font-size:130%; width:50%;">Organization The Blood Dragons consist of 1000 marines spread into four companies two are armored and heavy support companies and the other two are fast attack and rapid insertion companies. each company is lead by a squad of veteran marines and a captain, while the chapter as a whole is led by Chapter Master Nevarr and his squad of sternguard veterans.The chapters fortress monastery is a space station that orbits Ansilvaan's moon called "The Maw"Homeworld Ansilvaans geography is similar to that of ancient terra, its wildlife is dominated by giant winged reptilian animals similar to dragons of ancient terran myth. its ruled over by four warring kingdoms all fighting for the throne of the high king and the capitol of ansilvaan, its people have only just discovered gunpowder and have been too busy fighting each other and the giant creatures that dominate their skies to advance technologically. the combat style of the warriors of ansilvaan are the bigger the explosion the better and the explosions are as much to kill the enemy as they are to disorient them before they rush in for close combat giving opposition little time to react. the planets first interaction with the galaxy at large besides the space marines that recruit from the planet was the Ork invasion during the waaagh! though officially a part of the imperium they seclude themselves and shun technology not their own or that of the blood dragons, this is because the people of ansilvaan are very hard headed and proud people that believe that improvement can only be brought about from the sweat of their own brow and the strength of their own back, this hotheadedness contributed to the long siege of ansilvaan due to the small amount of guardsmen posted on the planet because the high king would not allow more foreign boots on his soil than absolutely required by the imperium.the male children of ansilvaan are trained in the art of war in preparation to be recruited by the Blood Dragons, only the most gifted and capable aspirants are taken to the maw to be further trained as space marines. those that do not make the cut continue to be warriors in the ansilvaanian military.The people of ansilvaan believe in honor in combat above all not personal honor but honor for your people as a whole, the most accomplished and influential warriors are often elevated to positions of leadership and reverence. and in extent of this The Blood Dragons Revere the emperor as the most accomplished warrior in the galaxy and worth following without question.The Blood Dragons take their name from an ancient ansilvaanian tale of a hero who battled the dragons in armor supposedly forged using the blood of the very creatures he combated.Combat Doctrine The Blood Dragons take two approaches to combat, shock and awe tactics with heavy armor and support units to tackle large enemy forces, and small tactile surgical strikes to quickly eliminate smaller threats. when assaulting an enemy held planet they prefer orbital bombardment when available sending in rapid attack forces to clean up survivors, when this is not an option they send in armored forces including rhino's predators and occasionally a dreadnought to soften the enemy then drop soldiers right in the middle of the enemy with drop pods and air vehicles.Geneseed the blood dragons share the geneseed of the Imperial fists with minor mutations including yellowed eyes thick sharp nails and short webs forming between their fingers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257444-blood-dragons/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkana Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Not a bad start. I have this odd feeling that you used the Rites of Battle charts to get started. The siege of their home world lasted nearly four decades Marines don't usually fight long wars. They'll hit as hard as they can as fast as they can and let the Guard mop up whatever is left. Why did they resort to hiding behind their walls instead of tracking down the Warboss and eliminating him? Why didn't they call in some backup from nearby Guard regiments or another SM Chapter? Their combat doctrine doesn't match their behavior in this case. its ruled over by warring kingdoms, its people have only just discovered gunpowder and have been too busy fighting each other and the giant creatures that dominate their skies to advance technologically. the combat style of the warriors of ansilvaan are the bigger the explosion the better and the explosions are as much to kill the enemy as they are to disorient them before they rush in for close combat giving opposition little time to react. the planets first interaction with the galaxy at large besides the space marines that recruit from the planet was the Ork invasion during the waaagh! though officially a part of the imperium they seclude themselves and shun technology not their own or that of the blood dragons. Why would they shun technology that could enable them to fight dragons more effectively? Why haven't any of the kingdoms realized that Imperial technology could easily make them the dominant kingdom on the planet? shock and awe tactics What exactly do you mean by this? I'm guessing lots of flashy displays and explosions, but I want to be sure. the blood dragons share the geneseed of the black templars with minor mutations including yellowed eyes thick sharp nails and short webs forming between their fingers You'll probably catch less flak for this if you just say they're Imperial Fist successors. How did the mutations show up? Why aren't they worried about it or doing anything about it? What is it adding to the Chapter's character? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257444-blood-dragons/#findComment-3133236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrat Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 The Blood Dragons consist of 4000 marines spread into four companies two are armored and heavy support companies and the other two are fast attack and rapid insertion companies. each company is lead by a squad of veteran marines and a captain, while the chapter as a whole is led by Chapter Master Nevarr and his squad of sternguard veterans. This is the only huge question mark for me. Why are they so large a chapter and why does the High Lords tolerate it? Chapters are usually limited to 1000 marines plus command staff, and that rule is very strictly enforced. Now there are deviations for it, yes, but they are really rare, so why are the Blood Dragons' numbers tolerated? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257444-blood-dragons/#findComment-3133554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_Iconoclast Posted July 27, 2012 Author Share Posted July 27, 2012 The siege of their home world lasted nearly four decades Marines don't usually fight long wars. They'll hit as hard as they can as fast as they can and let the Guard mop up whatever is left. Why did they resort to hiding behind their walls instead of tracking down the Warboss and eliminating him? Why didn't they call in some backup from nearby Guard regiments or another SM Chapter? Their combat doctrine doesn't match their behavior in this case. "(The siege of Ansilvaan was seen as a great shame to Nevarr that should be dealt with by the marines who allowed it to happen alone)" " the people of ansilvaan are very hard headed and proud people that believe that improvement can only be brought about from the sweat of their own brow and the strength of their own back, this hotheadedness contributed to the long siege of ansilvaan due to the small amount of guardsmen posted on the planet because the high king would not allow more foreign boots on his soil than absolutely required by the imperium." added those bits to hopefully give a reason for such a long engagement :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257444-blood-dragons/#findComment-3133569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_Iconoclast Posted July 27, 2012 Author Share Posted July 27, 2012 The Blood Dragons consist of 4000 marines spread into four companies two are armored and heavy support companies and the other two are fast attack and rapid insertion companies. each company is lead by a squad of veteran marines and a captain, while the chapter as a whole is led by Chapter Master Nevarr and his squad of sternguard veterans. This is the only huge question mark for me. Why are they so large a chapter and why does the High Lords tolerate it? Chapters are usually limited to 1000 marines plus command staff, and that rule is very strictly enforced. Now there are deviations for it, yes, but they are really rare, so why are the Blood Dragons' numbers tolerated? Fixed that to just 1000 i was not fully aware of the size restrictions Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257444-blood-dragons/#findComment-3133570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrat Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 The Blood Dragons consist of 4000 marines spread into four companies two are armored and heavy support companies and the other two are fast attack and rapid insertion companies. each company is lead by a squad of veteran marines and a captain, while the chapter as a whole is led by Chapter Master Nevarr and his squad of sternguard veterans. This is the only huge question mark for me. Why are they so large a chapter and why does the High Lords tolerate it? Chapters are usually limited to 1000 marines plus command staff, and that rule is very strictly enforced. Now there are deviations for it, yes, but they are really rare, so why are the Blood Dragons' numbers tolerated? Fixed that to just 1000 i was not fully aware of the size restrictions Now then, the next part. You probably should explain why they use a non-codex chapter organisation of 4 companies (with 250 marines each?)? That is not such a big deal as the 4000 marines, but it deviates quite a lot of the standard (10 companies, 100 marines each), so it would merit a short explanation. Personally I like the idea of breaking the codex rules, but you need to tell why. On another note, I love the name of your chapter. And I expect DeathKnight2000 to pop by in a couple of days to say the same ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257444-blood-dragons/#findComment-3133649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 On another note, I love the name of your chapter. And I expect DeathKnight2000 to pop by in a couple of days to say the same :) Yes Blackrat is right, I do make a flashy entrance. ;) Well without further adou, Welcome to the wonder world of the Blood Dragons brotherhood. Our union is strong, and our fires burn bright. It's nice to see a son of Dorn take the mantle "blood" as their title. Blackrat and I are sons Sanguinius due to the " path of blood, and air drop strikes" that sons of Sanguinius follow. Most sons of Dorn would try to take out your chapter due to the mutations like webbed hands. Most notable chapter like Black Templars would take great pleasure in crusading to wipe you off the records due to the abhor the mutant rule they have ( silly I know) . Your IA It's a work in progress, and I under stand, but the redish eyes sure sounds like Salamanders to me. And a proud hot headed bunch that they are.. They "make" thier own arms, and armor that just screams, blacksmith, and Admech (wanna be's) way too much. Also the name of the planet Ansilvaan should be capitalised in the article since it referring to a planet. Example we don't call this lump of dirt earth, we use Earth with a big "E" to emphisis this is a place of home. Plus Ansilvaan sound like Sylivian, and Anvil mixed, and if that what you were going for then nice colloquialism. But still the Sylvania part is the only thing that also bring to knowledge of Flesh Eaters, and Blood Drinkers, and your chapter is neither. I like what you've done with your Armor it's simple, and easy to paint, but its also easy to spot you made it like the St. Georges sheild colors. So what I'm trying to say is re-think your theme, and try to tone down the "uber blacksmith with red eyes" theme. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257444-blood-dragons/#findComment-3133832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantonWC Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Date:...............763.M41 Their formation was sanctioned by the Lords of Terra during the 25th founding to be a Bulwark against an advancing ork waaagh that would hit Ansilvaan, and if not hindered would intrude into inner imperium space. 25th was around M40. You'll want to adjust your date. And refrain from setting down any concrete dates, as we know of almost no specific dates aside from a few. The siege of their home world lasted nearly four decades How the heck does a siege last this long? until the Ork Warboss showed his face on the battlefield And why did it take so long to find the guy? the siege continued for several more years after the warboss was killed untill the waaagh eventually dispersed Uh, what happened? The siege was ongoing for a while (which I doubt) and kept going for a while. If the Orks are pretty well supplied, and it would seem that they are, it would take an external force to drive them off. The logistics of the whole siege affair bother me. We're talking probably tens/hundreds of millions of Orks who have managed to blockade an entire planet, versus 1,000 Astartes at the most and any human auxiliaries they can scrounge up. I hope the local populace were not seriously trying to fight the alien invaders with gunpowder weaponry. The siege of Ansilvaan was seen as a great shame to Nevarr that should be dealt with by the marines who allowed it to happen alone Uh why? I don't see what they did wrong. They gave it everything they had in an unfavorable situation. Maybe they should have called for reinforcements, but reinforcements are not always available. A Waaagh! should be dealt with by several Chapters anyway. The Blood Dragons consist of 1000 marines spread into four companies two are armored and heavy support companies and the other two are fast attack and rapid insertion companies. each company is lead by a squad of veteran marines and a captain, while the chapter as a whole is led by Chapter Master Nevarr and his squad of sternguard veterans. Any reason for this unorthodox organization? this is because the people of ansilvaan are very hard headed and proud people that believe that improvement can only be brought about from the sweat of their own brow and the strength of their own back, this hotheadedness contributed to the long siege of ansilvaan due to the small amount of guardsmen posted on the planet because the high king would not allow more foreign boots on his soil than absolutely required by the imperium. Uh... And how many people needlessly lost their lives because of this attitude? TBH I should catch up on my Black Library reading, but I haven't read much on what a Chapter might do to defend their homeworld. Presumably they would want to have auxiliary guard units for this kind of situation. There really should be a big Imperial operation in place to counter the Waagh!. What do they want with the planet anyway? the blood dragons share the geneseed of the Imperial fists with minor mutations including yellowed eyes thick sharp nails and short webs forming between their fingers Pray the Inquisition don't find you. ----- Not much else to comment on. There's one important part missing - the heart of the Chapter. What are they like? What is their outlook? Obviously they would hate Orks. What do they believe in? Who do they pray to? That's the stuff we're really interested in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257444-blood-dragons/#findComment-3136207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EgoDraconumNigrorum Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Another Blood Dragons Chapter enters the fold...... Ive seen quite a few Blood Dragons already, whats going on? I think theres a conspiracy lol :lol: I like what you have got so far. Basically Im gonna mirror what DeathKnight2000 said about toning down one or two elements. But keep it up, its shaping up nicely! - EgoDraconumNigrorum Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257444-blood-dragons/#findComment-3136398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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