6Ed - Space Wolf Allies Markings...

[Hagamar]

ALLIES PAINT SCHEME

 

Im re-structuring a Space Wolf army with allies for the tabletop and thinking to go at the level of basic tournament with it... Now im trying to keep the army paint sheme to be overal the same as to get a good feeling for the tabletop and to have the army converted to about the same 'but' the following questions keeps me from starting to paint.

 

 

Question are:

 

1) How one goes to differentiate Space Wolf vs Allies using same type of paint sheme / fluf / background for the army?

2) How much of a different paint sheme would you fell comfortable to see units have if playing against Space Wolf with Allies?

 

 

I understand if the Allies are completely of different race, size, etc... (Space Wolf with Imperial) 'BUT' if you are to put Space Wolf with Space Marines as Allies how much difference in the paint sheme would be required to be done on your army for your adversary to feel comfortable to play against ya. Does the entire armor need to be painted a different color... or could you go with just a full arm / pauldron / markings to be of different color? Send any points good ;) or bad :down: ! For im sure im not the only one who is going to go throw this problem.

 

 

 

HAGAMAR

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[Arez]

You could do the markings in the SW colors(tac symbols in black and red,assault in red and yellow) like this:

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy55/Arez181/IMG00220-20120226-1208.jpg

[Wulfebane]

I must be missing the point. I can't see how I'd be uncomfortable with a player fielding an army of Space Wolves, painted as Space Wolves, with Allies of any variety. Whatever the mash-up, I'd always assume the Wolves have arrived somewhere at the last minute to save Imperial butt from impossible odds.

[Hagamar]

I must be missing the point. I can't see how I'd be uncomfortable with a player fielding an army of Space Wolves, painted as Space Wolves, with Allies of any variety. Whatever the mash-up, I'd always assume the Wolves have arrived somewhere at the last minute to save Imperial butt from impossible odds.

 

 

The Mash-up would be if someone make their allies look like space wolf instead of another pure space marines chapter and then goes to say that this is the army he plays. What would be needed to differentiate what is a Space Wolf to what are the Allies... ?

 

Think of it like a second Wolf Brothers Founding Chapter or the Space Wolf with the Khan but both with Pre-Heresy Armors... or... someone putting on the table 2 Ironclad dreadnought from the Space Marines Codex looking like Space Wolf Dreadnought... or... Space Marines Bike with Swiftclaws bikes without any special markings to differentiate them... How would you feel playing against that ???

 

What would you feel they should have to differentiate themselves. Would a Pauldron be really enough or would you ask your adversary to have something special beside them once on the table ?

[hendrik]

simple, just take guards as your allies! :P

 

more serious though: i think the OP means count as in fluff, such as taking allied vanguards and making up some fluff these are experiences skyclaws who made it into the wolfguard etc. In theory there should be no problem if you tell your opponent before each battle what unit is what...

[Hagamar]

simple, just take guards as your allies! :P

 

more serious though: i think the OP means count as in fluff, such as taking allied vanguards and making up some fluff these are experiences skyclaws who made it into the wolfguard etc. In theory there should be no problem if you tell your opponent before each battle what unit is what...

 

 

Sure if you play against friends :P ... but what about the once and awhile unknown players or city tournament play ect... Thats where im bug hehe... Dont wanna be the cheesy player that have converted all is army to look awesome just to be told the army is not WYSIWYG and should be given an automatic lost... Just Wanna see what is the threshold of what would be ok what would not be... Would a full arm painted a different color be enough... or would you need to go like the Dark Angel and go black and white... or monk cape no monk cape... What would the Space wolf allies require if you make your allies look like space wolf... would this be allowed and to what degree...

[Darkseer]

I've been thinking of taking Blood Angels allies, but making some 13th Company models to represent them.

[Wulfebane]

Color code the base trim.

 

Outside of that, there's no need to tell your opponent anything about them other than what isn't wysiwyg. If they're hardcore players, just uttering what unit they "count-as" should be enough to have them recall all the USR that unit retains (or quickly look it up in their plethora of codices).. if they are more casual players, a different paint job won't make much, if any, difference toward their knowledge of the rules.

[hendrik]

again, just using the count as fluff and telling any opponent should be enough. remember you'll be repeating the units name repeatedly.

"This is the reserve roll for my vanguard veterans", "my bloodangel terminators are deepstriking" etc.

If an opponent gets all upset by if just shake his hand and congratulate him with his victory, afterall the objective of whine is worth 12 victorypoints...

[Blacksad]

depends on how you paint your regular space wolves... I use 2 colors, one for armourplates, one for edges (and these last few weeks, finnaly: highlights! wh00t)

 

if you want your allies to look like Space Wolves, but have your adversairy still know what they are, you could go for a different secondairy colour, and obviously space wolves are the only Marines cool enough to have beards and hair and stuff, so the allies will have regular heads / helmets. add to that their own chapter's shoulderpads, and it should be obvious enough, even with the other paintscheme

[Hagamar]

Was going at first with Red on both shoulders for the Space Wolf units and then Black on one shoulder for the Space Marines units but tought it was not enough of a marking and might be to cheesy for not having a bigger difference in markings between Army and Allies...

 

Made me think about what would the 'Luna Wolf of Horus' Pre-Heresy would look like beside the 'Space Wolf of Russ' Pre-Heresy? Having both fighting side by side intrigue me... Horus being always portraying with a large Wolfpelt on top of his armor and is Chapter being call Luna Wolf.

[RipherChost]

I was trying to wrap my head around PA allies as well and I am going to jump on the chance to craft a DiY chapter, I may even paint my wolves a non-wolfy color to match. I am still brewing the idea on a back burner in my mind for now but I am currently thinking white armor with black and gold trim then pack/squad markings applied to the apropriate units.

 

Your Luna Wolves idea could work well in a simular way.

[Quillen]

And do not worry about your wolves looking grey. The original fluff is there is Campaign paint schemes the army adopts for the campaign. I the old RogueTrader book has a pack of cam paterned spacewolves in a desert waiting for an ork warbuggie to get close enough to Multi melta. Yes Camo.

 

So you have a ton of freedom in painting your minis.

 

I use a 3 ton Camo patern n my guys from that pic. And yes they are all beakies except for Wolf Gaurd and heroes whom might have a newer helm. My Lost company left right after Russ left and Bjorn was entombed in his Dreadnought.

[Hagamar]

And do not worry about your wolves looking grey. The original fluff is there is Campaign paint schemes the army adopts for the campaign. I the old RogueTrader book has a pack of cam paterned spacewolves in a desert waiting for an ork warbuggie to get close enough to Multi melta. Yes Camo.

 

So you have a ton of freedom in painting your minis.

 

I use a 3 ton Camo patern n my guys from that pic. And yes they are all beakies except for Wolf Gaurd and heroes whom might have a newer helm. My Lost company left right after Russ left and Bjorn was entombed in his Dreadnought.

 

 

Its not really about the paint scheme but more about...

 

"If your Allies are converted and painted the same as your Space Wolf" what "Would you do special to differentiate them from each other so your adversary feel comfortable playing against you on the tabletop and not call your army cheesy ??? " :) :)

 

Mainly looking for ideas...

[Blacksad]

depends on how you paint your regular space wolves... I use 2 colors, one for armourplates, one for edges (and these last few weeks, finnaly: highlights! wh00t)

 

if you want your allies to look like Space Wolves, but have your adversairy still know what they are, you could go for a different secondairy colour, and obviously space wolves are the only Marines cool enough to have beards and hair and stuff, so the allies will have regular heads / helmets. add to that their own chapter's shoulderpads, and it should be obvious enough, even with the other paintscheme

this, or a different basing?