Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I've had a Space Marine Terminator Captain kicking around for ages with no real idea what to do with him until suddenly it hit me; Inquisitor! He's shorter than other Terminator models so he's perfect for representing a regular human in TDA. Anyway, enough waffle. I want to arm him with a Daemonhammer and Psycannon, in his right and left hands respectively. Now the Daemonhammer is straight forward enough, just cut his left hand off and attach the new bit, but the Psycannon is causing me problems. I cannot find a picture anywhere showing how it attaches to the hand. Will I be able to simply cut the Captain's sword arm off and glue a Psycannon on or is it going to be more complicated than that? My modelling skills are, it must be said, poor. Any help is much appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257897-terminator-psycannon-bit-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 On GK Terminators, the ranged weapons are attached at the left lower arm with this bit: http://www.bitzbox.co.uk/images/grey_knights_terminators_special_weapon_arm_large.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257897-terminator-psycannon-bit-question/#findComment-3137270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I did something very similar, turning that old metal captain into an apothecary using the GK narthecium. I needed to cut the narthecium arm down to about elbow level then green stuff it to the metal termie. It was my first green stuff job, so it won't hold up to very close scrutiny. Way way better than just gluing it on tho, as GS fills those gaps in. Just always use a bit less than you think you need to start then gently press it and smooth it into place, gently trimming away excess as you need. If you botch it, green stuff is cheap and a Simple Green bath will weaken it enough to pull off :) tho honestly if you try again soon enough, the GS will just give way when you tug. You'll need to let the green stuff set; an overnight to be safe. It also helps to use just a tiny bit of the blue stuff on its own to hold it in place while it dries. Pinning can really really help too. As for the other arm, I magnetized it just to make storage convenient. :) Tools you may find helpful: xacto knife, a Dremel with drill bits, files (like for hobby train sets), a pin vice with some paper clips (thin enough to be pins), and little tools to shape the GS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257897-terminator-psycannon-bit-question/#findComment-3137366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 On GK Terminators, the ranged weapons are attached at the left lower arm with this bit: http://www.bitzbox.co.uk/images/grey_knights_terminators_special_weapon_arm_large.jpg Ah. Poop. Thanks for the info. I did something very similar, turning that old metal captain into an apothecary using the GK narthecium. I needed to cut the narthecium arm down to about elbow level then green stuff it to the metal termie. It was my first green stuff job, so it won't hold up to very close scrutiny. Way way better than just gluing it on tho, as GS fills those gaps in. Just always use a bit less than you think you need to start then gently press it and smooth it into place, gently trimming away excess as you need. If you botch it, green stuff is cheap and a Simple Green bath will weaken it enough to pull off :) tho honestly if you try again soon enough, the GS will just give way when you tug. You'll need to let the green stuff set; an overnight to be safe. It also helps to use just a tiny bit of the blue stuff on its own to hold it in place while it dries. Pinning can really really help too. As for the other arm, I magnetized it just to make storage convenient. :P Tools you may find helpful: xacto knife, a Dremel with drill bits, files (like for hobby train sets), a pin vice with some paper clips (thin enough to be pins), and little tools to shape the GS. When I say my modelling skills are poor, I'm talking Gary, Indiana poor. Thanks for the tips, though. I have all that stuff, other than the GS tools, which I don't think are worth the outlay as I'll rarely ever use them. I'm probably going to magnetize him too so that I can give him a NFS and make him a psyker if I ever have 30 spare pts. Drilling holes for magnets is about my limit. Cheers guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257897-terminator-psycannon-bit-question/#findComment-3137418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 GK used to sell left arm metal Psycannon bits on thier website. I *really* wished I'd picked a few more of them up. :P They are *far* better than the new plastic version of the Psycannon, which sucks :). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257897-terminator-psycannon-bit-question/#findComment-3137420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I agree, which is why I don't use any of the current psycannon's :) posting in a hurry and this is the best picture to see my "nurglez pattern" psycannons :P http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c397/nurglez/Palliespainted.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257897-terminator-psycannon-bit-question/#findComment-3137427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I was hoping Nurglez would way in here; his psycannon conversions are great. If possible, Res Ipsa, I humbly recommend you give modeling another go, especially in this case; you have nothing to lose but some time (as you can just yank and cut the GS away should you be displeased with the outcome the next day) and so much to gain (gaining skill and confidence with modeling). Conversions are so much of the fun for me; I really want to get everybody into them. Especially since 1. I was terrified of them before I tried it, failed, and retried it several times; and 2. my first real effort-filled and successful project was one extremely similar to this, involving the metal captain and a GK terminator arm. I trimmed it off at the elbow and did what I could to conserve the cables, poking them into the GW at the end. Perhaps I can find a picture.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257897-terminator-psycannon-bit-question/#findComment-3137441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Okay, here's a rough series of pictures to demonstrate what I did: Here's the captain, as he was before my modifications: http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/9687/img0201o.jpg This is before I had a jeweler's saw (which would've made this much much easier) so I used a brutal combination of clippers, my dremel with both pin vice bits and metal grinder bits, as well as filing, to get him down to this: http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/6274/img0203ji.jpg I strongly recommend using a jeweler's saw here, as - frankly - this was the most scary part of the process for me...and by far the most arduous. Here's the refuse from that battle: http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4701/img0205pn.jpg I then cut the arm down (in my case, a narthecium, but honestly the same cuts would very likely apply in the case of the heavy weapon arm) thus: http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/6642/img0208sf.jpg That was very easy to do (just an Xacto cut with some filing and trimming) and not stressful really, since 1. I have many narthecium arms, and 2. I kept telling myself "You can take it off but not put it back" and thus was very conservative about what and where I cut, taking my time. Remember, GS will fill those gaps. :) My angles on the GS job (which wasn't stellar anyway) aren't great, but here's what I have: note that it's unfortunately a bit rough due to my utter lack of skill. http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/364/img0211p.jpg This one is far too huge to link here, but shows fine detail of just how rough it was: http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5927/img0220jp.jpg Keep in mind that it will shrink up a bit and pull at itself as it dries (at least it does for me...possibly due to how much water I use or some other mystery of GS I'm not yet privy too). This was an apothecary too - all white as it was for my Space Marines force - so I couldn't just hit that with darker colors to draw attention away (but I did try). http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/8408/chiefapocleft.jpg http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1815/chiefapocfront.jpg Your model will be metal colors, so you can hit it with 'boltgun metal' (or whatever it's called now) and dark washes of 'badab black' (or whatever that's called now) while using brighter colors and highlights on the psycannon itself and the shoulder decorations, drawing attention away from what may otherwise be an imperfect elbow. <3 Don't be afraid! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257897-terminator-psycannon-bit-question/#findComment-3137457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted August 3, 2012 Author Share Posted August 3, 2012 Again, I really appreciate your words and sentiments, Thade, but it isn't only my lack of skill that holds me back, there's also the fact that I simply don't have the time to devote to learning. I've just been taken on as a student-at-law by a firm that is woefully understaffed and which has been for a long time so I'm working fifteen, sixteen hours a day monday to saturday and will be for the foreseeable future. I'm married too so what little time I have where I'm not working, sleeping or cooking and eating dinner I have to devote to spending with the missus. I'm lucky if I can even paint for an hour or two a week. Maybe in the future I can learn, but it's just not on the cards right now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257897-terminator-psycannon-bit-question/#findComment-3140462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 well, terminator psycannons are left handed, but power armored psycannons are right handed. Maybe just purchase one of the power armoured ones and stick it onto the side of his hand? My terminator inquisitor has a "psycannon", though I bought a minigun from somewhere else and stuck this to him, makes him look awesome i think :) http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c397/nurglez/Inquisitor-1.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257897-terminator-psycannon-bit-question/#findComment-3140511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddonshand Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 My OMI has his psycannon on the right arm. I used a strike squad psycannon. I cut off the Connector on the top side and flipped it to have the ammo box on the top. I then sheared off the skull (as it appeared upside down) and added another ammo box cut from another strike squad psycannon to where the skull was. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/257897-terminator-psycannon-bit-question/#findComment-3140550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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