Fytharin Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 <p>Alright so update on the Stonehorn/Predator. Stopped watching football to try and crank this bad boy out and I probably have the biggest head ache as a result.The only thing not pictured is the floor I had to make for the open topped turret which I did with green stuff. As soon as that dries I'll figure out how I want the space marine to be inside there and some leather straps I might attach from the choker to the turret but otherwise I'm pretty happy with it so far. http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad207/zoogarama1/IMG_0146_zpsea93eb1e.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad207/zoogarama1/IMG_0147_zps2a0ae223.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad207/zoogarama1/IMG_0148_zps3501ee59.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3567533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reichfaust Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Wow! Absolutely love this concept, and it's looking amazing so far. Keep it up! What model are you using for the beast, btw? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3567785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fytharin Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 It's from the Fantasy Ogre set. It's a stonehorn/thundertusk model. The box is pictured on the first page of the thread. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3567954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PupLord Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Kudos on a very original idea for the "Predator-horn mammoth". It is very creative and looking rather cool even though it is not my cup of tea. I'm a "techno"-purist (thus excluding fenrisian wolves, Thunderwolves and stuff like that from my own Great Company for example) so I wouldn't use an idea like that but the concept looks excellent for your army. Again kudos. I also seconf what MaveriK said about the improvements in your painting. You have advanced in leaps and bounds. Congratulations. I think your Fen Wolves look really good as is. I have always struggled with painting realistic looking fur so I can only compliment you on achieving that. Good job! Now base those minis already to make them even better looking :) A few tips since you wanted them... The palette you have chose for the Fen Wolves is very light and blueish and if you plan on continuing the GW "sanctioned" baby-blue colour scheme for your Vlka Fenryka such as you have done with the painted minis from your stolen pack (I am very sorry to hear that by the way. My sympathies.) then please DO NOT MAKE SNOW BASES for your minis. I would rather suggest a brownish earthy tone such as GW Graveyard Earth or whatever it is called nowdays. The earthy colors compliment the blueish grey tones and make the minis "pop" where as a snow base would "drown out" the colors from the mini. I know this from experience. And then a list of easy little tips I hope someone had told me when I began painting miniatures: 1) Always thin your paints. Not by much, but just enough to make them flow better. This will also aid in keeping your brushes in better condition for longer. I thin my paints using a pot of clear water with a few drops of washing-up liquid (for dishes) added there. The washing-up liquid will reduce surface tension in the water/paint mix and make it flow more evenly on the mini. I dip my brush in the paint (directly from the pot unless mixing colours), then I dip the brush in the water pot and then wipe (roll) the entire brush on my pallette. The residual paint will remain on the brush, thinned ever so slightly, and the "rolling" of the brush gives me a pointed tip to do precision work. I urge you to try that. It made a huge difference for me. Very helpful for line highlighting too! 2) When doing the basecoating, paint 1-2 thin layers of the base colour and then follow up with a "generous" wash. Let the wash dry completely and then paint one more layer of the base colour on top avoiding the recesses thus removing the staining effect of the washes. 3) You don't have to paint everything. You can paint just enough to suggest something is there instead of painting everything. Eyes on the minis are great example of this. Paint the sockets black and then add the tiniest possible white dot inside there instead of trying to paint the entire eye. Ie. suggesting a "glint" of the eye. 4) Take regular breaks when painting. For me I require a 10 min break (minimum) for every two hours of painting if I want to keep my painting consistent. 5) Define your goals realistically. Some of the more excellent effects on miniatures take an enormous amount of time, skill and experience to achieve. Which is great for the Golden Demon competition etc. Us mere mortals can achieve similar effects using simpler methods that look great from arms length, but "blocky" under a magnifying glass. For example blending. It can be done with hundreds and hundreds of carefully layed down glazes or by layering three shades of the same color. I guess what I mean to say is know your current skill level and try to push past that level, but don't try to become a Golden Demon winner overnight. It's a marathon. Enough of my babbling. Hope this helped... -Pup Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3568158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fytharin Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 It's funny that you bring up to Space Marine's blue color because I've been wrestling with that thought for a while now...while I don't mind the Codex blue, I've seen a couple of darker colors that look really good that would contrast better against the snow. The other thing I think I will do this time around is use the yellow on shoulder pads rather than replace it with the light gray I was doing on my old company. The thing I love about SW is that they tend to have so many colors on them it helps keep the detail so if I can figure out a darker shade of blue I can still do the snow/granite bases I'm hoping to do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3568230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mactire Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Sorry to hear about your wolves being stolen but well done on rebuilding your army. Your painting skills have come on brilliantly love the new fen wolves and your paint seems so much smoother on the Ulric model, cant wait to see your "stone-back" tank when its finished. Keep up the good work Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3568305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PupLord Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 It's funny that you bring up to Space Marine's blue color because I've been wrestling with that thought for a while now...while I don't mind the Codex blue, I've seen a couple of darker colors that look really good that would contrast better against the snow. The other thing I think I will do this time around is use the yellow on shoulder pads rather than replace it with the light gray I was doing on my old company. The thing I love about SW is that they tend to have so many colors on them it helps keep the detail so if I can figure out a darker shade of blue I can still do the snow/granite bases I'm hoping to do. I agree that a lot of the darker and greyer paint schemes are quite outstanding. The pre-heresy painting trend of the past two-three years has done the Wolves proud. Besides the darker colours compliment snow basing extremely well. I, however, personally adore the "baby-blue" Codex paint scheme since I am a firm believer in bright color schemes to make the army as a whole look striking from a distance as well. Stand out in the crowd effect or something like that. That's why I also prefer complimentary darker earthier bases. The wolves traverse the entirety of the Sea of Stars and not just the snow covered land of Fenris herself. There can't be snow everywhere ;). Since you want to do the snow bases I would recommend either a darker blue scheme as you already planned (say, Citadel The Fang/old Shadow Gray as base, shade with Agrax Earthshade and then add Army Painter Wolf Gray as highlight color) or possibly a light gray stone-like scheme. I would personally take the blue scheme route since with that base you maximize the effect of yellow AND red pack markings / shoulder pads, with yellow and red both being the components of orange which in turn serves as the complimentary colour for blue if my colour theory is not entirely flawed... Please share your work as soon as possible here so the rest of us can see your progress and maybe give more tips for the future! -Pup Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3568736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fytharin Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 I decided to finish up this guy before working on my pledge so he is going to be labeled as finished. I really like how he turned out and I'm much happier with how his helm looks. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/zoogarama/40k%20Mini%20pics/a2732855-d41b-4c81-b567-4f8378bb7592_zpsf8b57034.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/zoogarama/40k%20Mini%20pics/e237034c-7be1-4c6b-b9f2-be191d382c23_zpsb6b5969a.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3570436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Dammit Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 For easy scratches on the edges Id use the sponge method. you dab the sponge on the edges with a dark brown/black, make sure to remove surplus paint before putting it on the model, after that i use a boltgun metal and do the same on the dark patches but keeping the metal within the black contours. http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2826/11888688356_f168dacc31_z.jpg Scratches I use the dark line with highlight under the line http://thepaintingcorps.blogspot.nl/2008/12/friday-quick-tip-sponge-painting-battle.html http://www.40kforums.com/vb/content.php/145-Nicks-and-scratches-on-armour These are just fast google searches, i'm sure there are better tutorials, but these give you the idea Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3570579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellstomper Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I am still extremely new to the hobby but I have done a scraped and worn Terminator by doing a base coat (krylon copper), hair spray (can), and then another paint coat ( light blue). After it dried I used a hard bristle brush I use on car parts and scratched at the paint, where it chipped and scratched was a cool layer of copper. Then I washed in black which made it look like metal was worn and had been damaged a while. Hairspray made it chip and scratch with a more random look instead of it coming off like you did it intentionally. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3570907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fytharin Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share Posted January 28, 2014 Alright so here is my WIP for my vow. This has been taking way longer than it should have, brown is so finicky sometimes but I think I may have finally nailed it down to where it looks realistic and doesn't take forever. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/zoogarama/40k%20Mini%20pics/IMG_4189_zps8b3e2124.jpg You can kinda see on the gray wolves the progression of me trying to fiddle with eyes but the below I think is what I'll be doing in the future if I can replicate it...I know a lot of people ask about eyes so what I did was Mournfang Brown base, then Tau Light Ochre for the pupil. Then a black dot with a small white dot in the back to give it perspective and a very light brown ink around the eye to blend it in and give it that depth.....a pain in the to do....but the results are worth it. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/zoogarama/40k%20Mini%20pics/IMG_4193_zps5bfa921a.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3580439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fytharin Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 Quick question. If I have pictures of commission work down the road that are not Space Wolves am I allowed to post them here? Or do I need to post them in their chapter's forum? If so can I link to it in this forum? Space wolves are my home and I'd rather not spread out my painting adventures.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3582142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Dammit Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 If its power armour I dont mind, if the main focus of your thread is SW Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3582189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PupLord Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 The pinprick eyes are cool. I also really like the brown fur you have on those three fen-wolves. I however am not that fond of the pure grey wolves. They seem a little "diluted" somehow. Maybe consider adding more depth with more shades. Perhaps consider using brown washes with the grey to add more tone? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3582482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fytharin Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 If you look at the pic that has the close up on the eye you can see the brown wash a bit more clearly. Yesterday I probably spent four hours between trying to finish my brown wolves and touching up my gray's. I see what you mean about the contrast especially in the face, I feel like I could lighting up the cheek's a great deal more and maybe work on my highlights....I'll fiddle with it some more tonight. I get to do another 5 hour painting spree at the local game store while I'm waiting for a commission to be brought in so hopefully I can finish these and post pics for approval later tonight. ;) And thanks for the clarification Max. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3582529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fytharin Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/zoogarama/40k%20Mini%20pics/IMG_4201_zpsce349cd9.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/zoogarama/40k%20Mini%20pics/IMG_4200_zpsf82b3d97.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/zoogarama/40k%20Mini%20pics/IMG_4199_zps054e645c.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/zoogarama/40k%20Mini%20pics/IMG_4198_zpsfbf75f12.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3586954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fytharin Posted February 6, 2014 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 So about a week ago I landed a commission for some Alpha Legion space marines. It was small, easy going guy with simple requests for what he wanted and I got a good price, hurray! Well I got the minis...and...well....just look at the picture and you'll see what I'm having to deal with.... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/zoogarama/40k%20Mini%20pics/IMG_4202_zpsf937e164.jpg And this is what I've...."accomplished"...so far... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/zoogarama/40k%20Mini%20pics/IMG_4208_zpse551d795.jpg I almost didn't post these pics especially once I took them, but I promised myself I'd document my painting adventures from here on...these miniatures have that weird texture you get when you've painted a car REALLY badly. It was hard to get a good photo because the blue I chose is so dark but still...most of the detail work has been drowned out or covered in bumps so we'll see how this turns out. Any advice from salvagers would be appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3587915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadir Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Before re-painting leave the painted figure in break fluid (the cheapest is the best) for a night. Then use an old tooth brush to remove slimy paint. Works even on the plastic models. One more thing, remember to wash with a soap figure after the cleaning. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3589161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fytharin Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 Ok here is my update for the Winters Advance. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/zoogarama/40k%20Mini%20pics/IMG_42111_zpse7e70e84.jpg Also I think I may have decided on the style I want for my basic marines. What isn't chronicled in this forum is that at one point I was starting to go over to the codex blue but and the end of it all. I really do like the blue I started out with. It's not that super dark grey but it's got enough darkness to it that it lends I think a seriousness to the model that otherwise would be lost with a happier shade. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/zoogarama/40k%20Mini%20pics/27681dba-f9c0-49bb-9de2-c479ba600d8d_zps2bc48fee.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3608961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surreal Cruelty Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 The raptor isn't a bad save all things considered. I would also recommend SimpleGreen to strip paint from miniatures. It takes longer than break fluid (2-3 days in my experience), but it isn't as much of a hassle to dispose of as brake fluid. I am not sure if it is plastic/resin safe though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3609781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 WOW!! I'm just now finding this little piece of awesome??!! Firstly, sorry to hear about the acceident and the unfortunate situation it produced. But as we can see you bounced back quite strong!! :) As a purveyor of large men in even larger armor atop giant snarling beasts, your conversion for a predator is too good for me not to steal!! Seriously, brilliant!! I love the savage look to it, and it really fits into my mental image of what the wolves of Fenris would be like!! Space vikings, conquering worlds from hairy beasts in a star system near you!! I also love the Stonetusk model, and I am using it's head as the basis for my Nurgle Heldrake, you can check out my WIP thread in my siggy if you've got the time/interest!! I will watching for updates!! End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3609864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fytharin Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 Surreal: Thankfully the customer was fine with the texture and was really happy with how they turned out. The scary thing about those miniatures is that I think they put plastic jump packs on the metal models, you can see that they clearly don't have the long/old backpacks on. So that would have been tricky to do... Rune_Priest: My thread is deceptive! It starts with some rather ugly looking models and I should hope has vastly improved since then. Hehe. Right now I'm working on my grey hunter squad since I am DYING to start playing again and since I tend to be a painter before a player, my models are all only half assembled in anticipation of paint. May need to get some sticky tack so I can at least play...your nurgle helldrake is extremely unique I don't know how you came up with that idea to be honest but it's awesome. I can't wait to see how it turns out especially once you start painting. Have you done any work on it since your last post? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3611747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fytharin Posted March 9, 2014 Author Share Posted March 9, 2014 So I was about halfway done with this guy when I decided to check out the games workshop store that opened today and picked up Wolf Hunt audio drama...I have to say lore is sucking me more and more into investing a story into my minis. A bit to say about this mini in the meantime. Ended up making one eye crooked so in the process of fixing it I decided to try something new. I gave him a dead eye and painted a scar onto his face and I quite like how it turned out. And so begins the naming of my models....I will name him Sevarian in honor of my baptism into audio dramas. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/zoogarama/40k%20Mini%20pics/IMG_4222_zps30900572.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3615284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Still need to do your bases ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3615613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fytharin Posted March 9, 2014 Author Share Posted March 9, 2014 I hate doing bases....like i would pay to have someone do them for me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258324-fyths-wips-thread/page/2/#findComment-3615621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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