Brother Nemiel Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Greetings Brethren! I am in need of advice from you regardig how to arm a full Ravenwing unit (6 bikers, 1 attack bike, 1 land speeder). My situation is as follows: I run Greenwing, which I will expand on with supporting units of Deathwing and Ravenwing. No Belial or Samael in my army, just plain nameless ICs. I'm not asking for a specific army list. I'm looking for a setup that fits the rest of my army in the best way. I have several full tactical squads of 10. Heavy weapons in my Tactical squads are a mix: plasma guns and different heavy weapons (Hvy bolter, Lascannon, plasmacannon). For heavy support I have a whirlwind and two predators (that can be mix and matched to full Las or dakka pred). For Elite: Two Venerable dreads with plasmacannons or lascannons. Two units of Deathwing, one with only CCW and one shootier. a scout squad with sniper rifles and a ML My local gaming opponents are Tau, Tyranids, Necrons, Orks and Blood angels. My main concern is long range Anti AV14 (mainly against Blood angels with landraiders and monoliths of the necrons). I can always add melta bombs to all sergeants and/or IC. That does not feel like a good solution. How do you view giving two of the bikers melta guns, Combi-melta for the sarge, and multi-melta for the attack bike? Or does that make it too much of a "one-trick-pony"? Thanx in advance for feedback! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258421-equipping-a-ravenwing-unit/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 In the end, Brother Nemiel, I think that's one of the best load outs for RAS, especially if you need the tank-smashing abilities. Personally, magnetize everything you can to be as flexible as possible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258421-equipping-a-ravenwing-unit/#findComment-3142771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HJL Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I fit my ravenwing out for tank hunting, 2 meltas, multi melta, melta bomb. Its basically a cruise missile, point and fire at a tank, your odds are good at doing damage to it and they arent too expensive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258421-equipping-a-ravenwing-unit/#findComment-3142773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nemiel Posted August 7, 2012 Author Share Posted August 7, 2012 Thank you for your advice! I will proceed with the melta options. Glad I wasn't complete off marks. I'll see if my hobby skills are enough for magnetizing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258421-equipping-a-ravenwing-unit/#findComment-3142989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Sadly you can't give combi melta to the sarge with current codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258421-equipping-a-ravenwing-unit/#findComment-3143041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Rapid fire plasma guns and better toughness to survive gets hot. Yes please. Melta bombs with the new rules are decent anti tank too. A power sword just to be on the safe side (and if you have the points to spare). Melta guns are too short ranged. If you want use a MM on an assault bike. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258421-equipping-a-ravenwing-unit/#findComment-3143094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nemiel Posted August 7, 2012 Author Share Posted August 7, 2012 Sadly you can't give combi melta to the sarge with current codex. Hmm... missed that part. Thank you for pointing it out :D Rapid fire plasma guns and better toughness to survive gets hot. Yes please.Melta bombs with the new rules are decent anti tank too. A power sword just to be on the safe side (and if you have the points to spare). Melta guns are too short ranged. If you want use a MM on an assault bike. I certainly can see the allure of the plasma guns (they're fluffy too), but shouldn't I be worried about the lack of anti-AV14 in my army? Or do you think the melta bomb is enough? Or do you think that anti-AV14 is best supplied by other units in the army rather than a ravenwing unit? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258421-equipping-a-ravenwing-unit/#findComment-3143121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nemiel Posted August 7, 2012 Author Share Posted August 7, 2012 Rapid fire plasma guns and better toughness to survive gets hot. Yes please. Just realised something: Toughness doesn't matter right? As soon as it gets hot you automatically reveice a wound regardless of toughness. Unless I misread the USR... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258421-equipping-a-ravenwing-unit/#findComment-3143123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Rapid fire plasma guns and better toughness to survive gets hot. Yes please. Just realised something: Toughness doesn't matter right? As soon as it gets hot you automatically reveice a wound regardless of toughness. Unless I misread the USR... You are right i was mistaken in this. However you can still rapid firethem and get the armor save :D :P No depending on the melta bombs for AV14 is not so good. Thats why i said its better to have an attackbike tang along. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258421-equipping-a-ravenwing-unit/#findComment-3143134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGumbo Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I only recently realised that you could take an AB not with a multi-melta. Still not sure why anyone would want to, though. If anti-AV14 is what you're after then the full melta loadout sounds about right, although I'd be tempted to leave the speeder out to enable you to outflank with the bikes. *gasp* Sorry, I can't quite believe that I wrote a sentence including the phrase "leave the speeder out". Must be feeling ill. Be that as it may, the change to the Scout rule looks as though it might increase the need for outflanking to get your bikes to where they can do the most damage quickest - especially since you've now got a 2/3 chance of your reserves popping up on Turn 2. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258421-equipping-a-ravenwing-unit/#findComment-3143356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I run full melta loadout, yes, it dies after popping open the tank, but it does the job perfectly and wins me games where the enemies mobility was a concern or their armour was a concern. I definetly recommend that you use it. :teehee: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258421-equipping-a-ravenwing-unit/#findComment-3143482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Rapid fire plasma guns and better toughness to survive gets hot. Yes please. Just realised something: Toughness doesn't matter right? As soon as it gets hot you automatically reveice a wound regardless of toughness. Unless I misread the USR... You are right i was mistaken in this. However you can still rapid firethem and get the armor save :teehee: :P No depending on the melta bombs for AV14 is not so good. Thats why i said its better to have an attackbike tang along. Not to mention that T5 wounds on the same 2+ as T4, when the strength involved is 7... +1 for 3x melta weapons plus a power sword. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258421-equipping-a-ravenwing-unit/#findComment-3143495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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