Kurgan the Lurker Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 For those who may have missed ICE's post in the news area: Beast of War info. So the word has been out for some time that the new Warhammer 40K starter box, replacing Assault on Black Reach, will (or is that should) contain Dark Angels and Chaos Marines… but is that really true… and if it is, what will you get? Well, you might feel better to know there are still some insiders in the Stalinist like regime that is GW who want the fans to be excited and those plucky rebels have braved the wrath of the mighty Empire to bring you some solid information on the contents of the new box… information that bodes very well for those interested, not only in starting 40K, but those with existing collections too! So here we go… and remember… many Bothan spies lost their lives bringing you this information! Chaos Cultists are in! That’s right all you Chaos players… I refused point blank to believe that GW would ever release Chaos Cultist, but they have. The Dark Vengeance boxed set (did I not mention the name previously?) will have 2 units of 10 Chaos Cultist models, one armed with auto-guns (with a shotgun & CC weapon for the leader and a Heavy Stubber support trooper) and one with auto-pistol & CC weapon (with 2 CC weapons for the leader and a Flamer support model). The Chaos Cultist look like everything you’ve ever wanted for Chaos. They’re bound in rags, with metal half-masks and weapons that suit the cobbled-together, improvised look that you expect from the dregs of Chaos. But that’s not all for those naughty Chaos worshippers; they’re getting a unit of 6 Chosen…elite Chaos Space Marines, armed with a variety of Power Weapons (a Maul on the Sergeant, a Power Fist, a Chain Axe and a set of Lightning Claws by the look of things). The remaining Chosen are armed with Boltguns, but this bodes well for the potential that these exemplars of Chaos might get some more customisable options in the upcoming new Chaos Marines codex. To lead your forces, you have the obligatory Chaos Lord, armed with a Power Sword & Plasma Pistol. His pose is a bit static, but that is only in comparison to the much more animated Chosen. Lastly… what would Chaos be without something big and menacing to bring to the table? Well… how about a brand new model… the Hellbrute! The massive Hellbrute model comes equipped with a Multi-Melta & Power Fist. Suggesting that this isn’t a Dreadnought replacement, but is in fact a huge suit of specialist armour crewed by a Chaos Marine (or more likely a Champion). Actually, the model resembles a huge suit of Terminator Armour with lots of cool Chaos gribbly bits… I’m hoping for a Monstrous Creature that acts like the Dreadknight… what about all you Chaos fans? What would you like it to be? But what about the Dark Angels? They haven’t been left wanting and with a new codex (no doubt in their future) there is quite a bit to have a look at. Firstly, they wouldn’t be Space Marines without the obligatory 10 man Tactical Squad. However, the Dark Angel Tactical-Squad has a twist… it’s got Plasma! The ordinary Space Marine grunts come sporting a Boltgun, but the squad also has a Plasma Gunner and a Heavy Plasma Cannon model giving support… and just to round out the theme… a Plasma Pistol/Chainsword Sergeant. Looks like that squad will be getting hot! The Tactical Squad also has a mixture of poses, this time around. Some of the Bolter-totting Marines are holding their ubiquitous weapon at jaunty angles to make the squad look a bit more animated… and it works too… good job GW! The Marine side wouldn’t be Space Marines without a smattering of Terminators… so you get a squad of 5 of them. It’s a pretty standard squad, with Stormbolter/Power Fist, with a Power Sword Sergeant. However, you do get an Assault Cannon and Chainfist option… and true to previous form… the models now come in a variety of more dynamic poses with the squad sergeant even sporting Wings but thankfully no nipple armour! The last squad in the box is a unit of 3 Space Marine (or Ravenwing) Bikers, with Sergeant and one Biker sporting Bolt Pistol/Chainsword and the third Biker packing a Plasma Gun. The models look similar to previous Ravenwing Bikers (with that big wing banner on the back) and are probably the least inspiring out of the box. But let’s not end on a low… let’s talk about the Dark Angel Triple Whammy… 3 Heroes! The box will contain a Dark Angels Company Master (Balthasar)… resplendent with his erect Power Sword! A Dark Angels Librarian… with a slightly less impressive looking Force Sword… and a limited edition Interrogator Chaplain, who’s Power Armour (including smoking exhaust details) and embellished robe might be the most ostentatious model in the box! That’s all the models in the box… but what about the Rulebook? I know many of you have been planning to buy the box (price TBC) in order to get your hands on the smaller rulebook. So rest easy… there will be one in the box. There will also be templates and a new How to Play Dark Vengeance booklet, that allows you to jump right into the action. I'll be in my bunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Three characters? WOW! I'm so excited by... everything really! Can't wait for the release! Now I have to decide on which Traitor Legion I'm gonna go for! :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skink Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Did someone say... Limited Edition Interrogator Chaplain...??? Uh oh (brace yourself wallet...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Three characters? WOW! I'm so excited by... everything really! Can't wait for the release! Now I have to decide on which Traitor Legion I'm gonna go for! :tu: Too many powerswords. And three characters? So much for the Chinese leaflet. It made no mention of the chaplain. How much is this going to cost? I think it is a bit too much, looks suspicious. Oh and here is an idea for the chaos marines: Your consecrators would look cooler x100 with some chaos body parts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bevulf Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 winged deathwing sgt ? uh, I do not buy this idea. I hoped for robed ones not winged ones :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Nice one. Can't wait for September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillyfish Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Let's see them first bevulf. ;) All sounds good actually. I was worried that the tactical squad would be utterly static. This sounds much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaeton Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 A lot of plasma in tacs, wooo-hooo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbenner Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I guess I'm going to have to buy at least one of these now. I've got a few AoBR Dreadnoughts that I've been converting with DA Front plates and bits. Will have to buy some arms for them when the new Codex comes out. Looks pretty awesome, and with (3) Characters, should be pretty righteous. I'm going to guess (2) HQs + and Elite Chappy. Anyone else? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komodo Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 It would be nice to see chappy on bike in this one. But I guess it's too much to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droma Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 This is sounding a lot better than I thought the models were going to look. I'll reserve final judgement for when the box is finally out but as it stands me and a friend will probably each buy a box so they get the choas and I get the DA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Sounds like the perfect opportunity to buy an allied Dark Angels force in one simple box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Sounds like the perfect opportunity to buy an allied Dark Angels force in one simple box. And you can use the broken bodies of the cultists as basing material to make your Templar friends happy ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Wallet: brace yourself for impact ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Thane Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Sounds interesting might make me also collect a new Chaos army after i finish painting my Dark Angels! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 winged deathwing sgt ? uh, I do not buy this idea. I hoped for robed ones not winged ones :) I'm sorry but robes on Terminator armor is just ridiculous -- even with all the "normal" ridiculousness that GW minis have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 winged deathwing sgt ? uh, I do not buy this idea. I hoped for robed ones not winged ones :) I'm sorry but robes on Terminator armor is just ridiculous -- even with all the "normal" ridiculousness that GW minis have. Agreed but there is some artwork in the current codex depicting said ridicule. Plus who knows if they sculpt them good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonis Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 The Blood Angels have nipple armour and a man with a three foot tall collar. My sense of the ridiculous has been altered slightly by playing this game. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 If they were the non-sleeved and open for the exhaust vent style "not-robes" the current PA DAs have, especially the more tabard-like ones, it would have been fine, provided the sculpted them well. My guess is that the "wings", which we haven't seen yet, gave them more posing options (as the "not-robes" made the PA DAs kinda static and very similar) so I'm willing to give them a chance (although I do think the wings idea probably ties into the BA more strongly than Dark Angels). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alys Dwr Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 And three characters? So much for the Chinese leaflet. It made no mention of the chaplain. As the Chaplain is a limited edition model, i doubt it will be usable in the scenario book. My guess is that it's just a pretty model to encourage rapid buying of the first run of boxed sets. After the first run, they will loose the limited edition model and be just what the leaked Chinese leaflet described. As to the models, i'm glad there is word of some flavour on the terminators and a bit more life in the tacticals than AoBR. The existing Ravenwing models are pretty spot on if you ask me, so there is no need to fix what ain't broke. Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onisuzume Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Did someone say... Limited Edition Interrogator Chaplain...??? Uh oh (brace yourself wallet...) Exactly. Hopefully we'll get some pictures soon, 'cuz it sounds pretty nice so far. I'm sorry but robes on Terminator armor is just ridiculous -- even with all the "normal" ridiculousness that GW minis have. Eh, really? Guess you forgot about this piece of artwork, depicting robed terminators on the right. Which, of course, someone tried to replicate. With some success at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted August 9, 2012 Author Share Posted August 9, 2012 Did someone say... Limited Edition Interrogator Chaplain...??? Uh oh (brace yourself wallet...) Exactly. Hopefully we'll get some pictures soon, 'cuz it sounds pretty nice so far. I'm sorry but robes on Terminator armor is just ridiculous -- even with all the "normal" ridiculousness that GW minis have. Eh, really? Guess you forgot about this piece of artwork, depicting robed terminators on the right. Which, of course, someone tried to replicate. With some success at it. The artwork looks like tabards to me, not robes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bevulf Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 winged deathwing sgt ? uh, I do not buy this idea. I hoped for robed ones not winged ones :P I'm sorry but robes on Terminator armor is just ridiculous -- even with all the "normal" ridiculousness that GW minis have. As robed armour I didn’t mean the whole robed bodies – just similar to the old terminator (metal) captain. Similar - not the same - so not exactly tabards. but I still think that this is less ridiculous than winged terminator armour - but of course we will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 but I still think that this is less ridiculous than winged terminator armour - but of course we will see. Yes, lets see - we don't even know what "winged terminator armour" is yet. I would like robed (I use that term loosely), perhaps like some of the Space Hulk minis and depending on what they mean by "winged", maybe that would be nice too. Just some subtle accent or something. I'm not sure about robed/tabard and hoods. The hoods might now work, unless there is no helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 The PA stuff is really not robed either... It's almost like a sleeve-less duster/long coat, except some do have a solid upper portion (which seems more silly than the ones tied at the waist with rope). I'm just hoping to see some Terminators that more closely resemble those from our Codex: some fabric hangings (tabards, robes, cloaks, who cares what you call them), some (limited) chain details (attached to the chest plates - or if they want to toss in some hanging maille, that could be cool too), and some winged swords, instead of the standard Aquila, and some hanging ceremonial blades. An alternative Terminator armor style could be cool too. I'd personally prefer no cowled heads or helms for Terminators, they just don't make sense to me, as they'd either have to go into the armor (which realistically could either interfere with the operation or be ripped apart quite quickly) or they'd have to drape over the rear upper armor, which would look silly (at least, it does in my mind). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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