omo667 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 hello brothers im having some troubles painting green on my marines the paint doesnt cover very well (its very watery when out of the bottle, and shaking doesnt help) even if i add water the behaviour doesn't change; paint is Vallejo Dark Green when im painting on white background it leaves clearly visible marks im attaching 2 pics, the marine with golden helmet is mine, you can see that green goes in splotches the other marine on 2nd pic is the kind of green i would like to get any ideas on what i could be doing wrong? http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8770/img0771uc.jpg http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/9133/img0773he.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258607-painting-green-doesnt-work-for-me/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
elohimalpha Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I don't have a ton of painting experience, but I find that when I'm painting darker color (like your green here) I have better results when I paint over a black basecoat. Having thin paints isn't so bad - don't be afraid to go back over the model with another pass of green. And most importantly, practice practice practice :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258607-painting-green-doesnt-work-for-me/#findComment-3144492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GumbaFish Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I have that same paint, the coverage is terrible it is not just you. From those pictures though it also appears like you might be slopping too much paint on at once instead of doing several thinner coats. But again this particular color just really does have terrible coverage and nothing will change that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258607-painting-green-doesnt-work-for-me/#findComment-3144511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonis Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Try Tamiya XF-11 or I think the current citadel colour is Caliban green. If you can find it I've had some good results with Coat D'Arms Dark Elf Green which is basically really old school Dark Angel citadel paint. I'm currently rocking the Tamiya though for my Dark Angels as I like the slightly darker colour and it flows much better than citadel paints, is thinner and covers really well. I do basecoat black though for darker colours. Although if you want a lesson in frustration basecoat a mini white and then try and paint it as a Imperial Fist using current citadel paints. For safety reasons (apparently some of you were drinking your paint) the pigment they now use in it is awful and it covers nothing! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258607-painting-green-doesnt-work-for-me/#findComment-3144523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
omo667 Posted August 9, 2012 Author Share Posted August 9, 2012 hehe, actually my main army is Imperial Fists, however I use vallejo paints for yellow too, and don't have _that many_ problems :devil: thanks for your help brothers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258607-painting-green-doesnt-work-for-me/#findComment-3144705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterdyne Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Yep, several thin coats* are what you want. Allow each to dry before applying the next. *: This does not just mean add water to the paint. You want the application to be thin; only a little paint on the brush at a time - you don't want it flooding out, just flowing from your brushstroke. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258607-painting-green-doesnt-work-for-me/#findComment-3144888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonis Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 New painters use tiny brushes and dollops of paint. Older painters use the biggest brush they can get away with and just enough paint to coat the end of the brush tip. Caught myself highlighting with a base coat brush the other day. Felt a bit silly. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258607-painting-green-doesnt-work-for-me/#findComment-3145096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
puck Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I agree with whats been said so far. I'd start with going over the model with another coat of green. I used to paint my deathwing using layered scheme and would see the results you're seeing after a coat or two. Remember to use small amounts of paint at a time. Put in a movie or something and just sit back for a long haul. The coverage of the paint does look pretty bad which leads me to the question: why did you use a white primer for a predominantly dark colored model? If you like using the white primer maybe you could base coat the model with a mid-tone grey. That might be something of a compromise Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258607-painting-green-doesnt-work-for-me/#findComment-3145127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbothemagnificent Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 As above, thin coats, lots of them! For my current army I'm using a black undercoat, then dark angels green, working up with mixes of dark angels green and snot green. http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w496/jimbothemagnificent/The%20Damn%20Few/100820121372.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258607-painting-green-doesnt-work-for-me/#findComment-3145628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Having painted over 3,000 points of WE (Wood Elves not those zerks) with exactly the same colours I can confirm that You should start over black undercoat and then do several layers of dark green (former dark angels green) - for some reason it is never enough with one coat, so just paint the first one and then see where it should be painted over again and some parts usually get better coverage than others. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258607-painting-green-doesnt-work-for-me/#findComment-3150393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Do you have VGC Cayman Green? If so, life just got easier for you. Armour - use VGC Cayman as your basecoat, thin it as it's merely a base. You still need a decent colour build up though so you will need to apply it more times over black than white, should work with either. Wash all over with Nuln Oil. Then, next stage is VGC Dark green + VGC Cayman Green in a 50/50 mix. Highlight with VGC Sick Green. Keep your paints thin and brush tips sharp. Good luck! MR. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258607-painting-green-doesnt-work-for-me/#findComment-3153158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbringer Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I've found VGC Heavy Green to be a good base green which goes on with 1 or 2 thin coats over a black basecoat. Give it a try and build up from there good luck. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/258607-painting-green-doesnt-work-for-me/#findComment-3160057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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