Firing Stance SMs

[Orlunu]

In short, I don't know how. I can't make the arms work. Would anyone be so good as to give me advice on making a marine hold his weapon in this way? For reference: http://www.eliteukforces.info/images/gallery/royal-marines/royal-marines-shooting.jpg

(Best shown by guy in blue) Weapon points at right angles to the shoulders. Will be using on meltas and bullpup bolters, so the front hand can come right back if it has to.

 

Thanks, Orlunu.

[Gurth]

I doubt you can make this work without resculpting the torso.

[freakytah]

Yeah that seems tough to do. I always pictured marines firing from the hip anyways. The targeting reticle in their helmet would reflect this gun position.

[Orlunu]

Thought that the answer may be that it couldn't be done, oh well. Time for some experimental sculpting.

 

I'm fine for my table-top level guys to hip fire, but making detailed customised guys and having them do that, I just can't. Note the Golden Girlyman Boltershell smurfs can get? It's for marksmanship, as in, a stable firing position makes marines shoot tighter groups.

 

If I manage this though I might find myself tempted to find someone who I can model supine. :)

[Master Gresk]

Supine and the other position might both be doable. Try wire framing the arms together with floral wire and a pin vice so you can play with the positioning. Then fill in the gaps with green stuff when you have it how you like it.

 

Also, I find that looking to the other available marine arms (vehicle kits, assault marines, etc.) can be helpful when doing custom poses.

[Orlunu]

Do you mean cut open the joints and run a wire inside the arm? Sounds like that'll work, thanks. :) And I reckon that there may be quite a helpful devastator arm for this. Time to get chopping.

[ShinyRhino]

You might be able to finagle something using a bolt pistol right arm (wrist angle chopped and aligned), and either a Devastator supporting arm, or a vehicle gunner left arm. It's going to take some chopping at the shoulder, but you might be able to pull it off.

The biggest obestacle is that the Marine torso has a round profile when looking down from above, instead of a human-style oval. The bulk of the chest armor gets in the way of the Marine's ability to reach cross-body. In thinking about it, a Space Marine could never touch his opposite shoulder in his armor!

[winterdyne]

You might be able to finagle something using a bolt pistol right arm (wrist angle chopped and aligned), and either a Devastator supporting arm, or a vehicle gunner left arm. It's going to take some chopping at the shoulder, but you might be able to pull it off.

The biggest obestacle is that the Marine torso has a round profile when looking down from above, instead of a human-style oval. The bulk of the chest armor gets in the way of the Marine's ability to reach cross-body. In thinking about it, a Space Marine could never touch his opposite shoulder in his armor!

 

Of course they can! They just rip off their own arm to do it. What are you some kind of lilly-livered heretic? Self mutilation for the Emperor! (but you'd better not damage the armour, it's worth more than you are).

[Hyaenidae]

This is as close as I could get it, when I tried the same thing....

Just a snip of the hands, pin them in the desired position, a little greenstuff to rebuild the joints. Not perfect, but functional.

[Orlunu]

Shall do, nice legs.

[The_Chaplain]

Heathens, what arms and legs did you use for that model? Need to make some firing stance marines in the future.

[Inquisitor Engel]

This is as close as I could get it, when I tried the same thing....

Just a snip of the hands, pin them in the desired position, a little greenstuff to rebuild the joints. Not perfect, but functional.

How, out of curiosity, did you do those legs?

[GooseDaMoose]

Mix of berserker and assault squad legs methinks.

[jokaero weaponsmith]

Havent managed to get the pose with bolter but did manage a close pose for a bolt pistol

Used half the arm from the rhino "playstation" hands and the straight bolter support arm with wrist cut and respositoned.

Dave Andrews space marine on page 49 of WD391 second row from the left seems to have the pose too, it's what got me trying to find the pose.

Hope that helps or what your looking for.(note marine is still very much wip)

[The_Chaplain]

Havent managed to get the pose with bolter but did manage a close pose for a bolt pistol

Used half the arm from the rhino "playstation" hands and the straight bolter support arm with wrist cut and respositoned.

Dave Andrews space marine on page 49 of WD391 second row from the left seems to have the pose too, it's what got me trying to find the pose.

Hope that helps or what your looking for.(note marine is still very much wip)

First thing that came to mind:

"Hey! Filthy Xeno!"

"Wot do yew want 'umie?"

"Nothin', just smile and wait for the flash" :lol:

[Phoros]

This is as close as I could get it, when I tried the same thing....

Just a snip of the hands, pin them in the desired position, a little greenstuff to rebuild the joints. Not perfect, but functional.

How, out of curiosity, did you do those legs?

Seconding this - looks just like what I want for my Captain.

[Thirdfox]

I have a couple of guys with poses like that. I used the arms that hold the bolter at an upright 45-degree position. They're the ones with double-dot markings on the forearm.