DominicJ Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I'm thinking of magnetising some back packs, to allow my priest to switch from foot to jumpy, and maybe play about with terminator arms too. Any advice on what size to buy? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259073-so-magnets/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Angelus Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I've used 1x3mm for most applications. Predator sponsons & cowlings, backpacks/jump packs, scout bike armour plate & weapons. They seem to be the most durable size. They fit like a glove into the hole in a backpack, but you'll need greenstuff to fill out the larger cavity in a jump pack first. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259073-so-magnets/#findComment-3150459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicJ Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 Thats handy, I nearly bought 5's ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259073-so-magnets/#findComment-3150582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicJ Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 3x1s and 5x1s ordered Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259073-so-magnets/#findComment-3150615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gondow Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I cut the... uh.. other side of the backpack... at loss for words... but on the marine, fit that in the back pack and the 3mm magnet over. Usually a very good fit! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259073-so-magnets/#findComment-3150690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcginn Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Looks like youve already got your stuff ordered and all but what I do is this: buy magcraft 1/16 x 1/32 magnets. I bought a GW pin drill a while ago and dewalt makes a titanium drill bit that is just the right size for these magnets (I'm sure there are other ones out there these are just the ones I use), the 1/16 size bit. I drill a small hole into the back of the marine just above the bulb for the backpack and one right above that hole in the normal backpack, gotta be careful though, I have drilled right through the backpack before ;>.>. For the JP I usually just fill it with green stuff and put the magnet in there. Usually works pretty good and the great thing about these magnets is that I've had a lot of success magnetizing arms for different weapon options on marines and dark eldar warriors/wyches. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259073-so-magnets/#findComment-3150750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushtarador Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I use 2x2mm ones for back packs and the like, but everything from 2x1 to 3x2 should work well for most applications ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259073-so-magnets/#findComment-3150752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcginn Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 God I hate that the US still uses the imperial system. I am never happier than when working in metric in the lab >.< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259073-so-magnets/#findComment-3150784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rainbow Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 In case anyone else is wondering where to get them, I've used stuff from these guys (and it's good!) K&J Magnetics Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259073-so-magnets/#findComment-3150854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightguy Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Have ordered several times from K&J and can also endorse them. For magnetizing JPs/BPs, here is my method: 1. Drill out hole on the back of the marine just above the protrusion that goes into the BP/JP. I'm in the US and usually use 1/16" diameter, 1/32" thick cylindrical or disk magnet. So that's a 1/16" drill bit in a pin vice. Nice control. I'd say start about 1/32" above the protrusion. Set a magnet in the hole. 2. For backpack, do the same 1/32" above the hole where the protrusion would sit. Good to go there. 3. Jump packs are trickier as the holes are too big. Fill in the big hole with greenstuff such that only the protrusion fits in. Essentially, create the sort of hole that a standard backpack has. Let dry. 4. You can then follow step 2 as if the JP were a standard BP. I like this method as using the protrusion helps with stability. The magnet only provides pull. This makes it easier to achieve alignment. When I've cut off the protrusion and filled the holes with magnets, it's hard to keep the JP/BP straight up and down. Note. It really helps to keep your magnets polarity straight. Here is a tip. When you get a set of magnets, go through and mark all positive (or negative, doesn't matter as long as consistent) sides. I use a sharpie to do this and move magnets to the end of the line as marked. At that point, all magnets have a silver (unmarked) end and a black (marked) end. No matter what the use, the black side faces toward the center of the marine and the silver to the outside. If kept consistent you will never glue a magnet in with the wrong polarity and end up repelling rather than attracting pieces. Just one man's tips. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259073-so-magnets/#findComment-3150865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicJ Posted August 17, 2012 Author Share Posted August 17, 2012 I have a pin drill somewhere, need to hunt down one to five mm drill bits, hopefully the father in law will have some. Might order some smaller ones, or even bigger ones if these work out. Thanks for the help Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259073-so-magnets/#findComment-3151002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajefferism Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I try not to use anything smaller than 1/8" by 1/16" disc magnet, anything else isn't powerful enough to hold securely. For smaller magnets, the smallest accidental brush against the magnetized piece will send it to the floor. I use amazingmagnets.com. Make sure they are magnetized AXIALLY (either flat edge is a pole) and not diametrically (the round side edges are the poles). Also when magnetizing, make sure you have at least 2-3 points of contact where they are glued to the piece because the magnets can be stronger than a single point of contact. Drilling a perfect sized hole into the plastic for the magnet is ideal because it has the flat edge contacting with glue as well as the entire diameter edge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259073-so-magnets/#findComment-3151185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicJ Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 Four flamer marines, four regular back packs and four jump packs all magnetised Lost two magnets to super glue, and four more to "whoops the holes to big and I cant keep one straight, argh, I' getting stuck, just do something quick" But not a bad morning all in all :) Could do with finding a smaller drill bit, just been going straight in at 3mm, should probably drill a 1mm pilot first Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259073-so-magnets/#findComment-3152668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 For magnetizing JPs/BPs, here is my method: I don't suppose you have any WIP pictures of this procedure? If you did, it would be much appreciated if you could post them since I find it much easier to learn such techniques visually rather than reading them. Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259073-so-magnets/#findComment-3153214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicJ Posted August 20, 2012 Author Share Posted August 20, 2012 If someone wants to pm me an explanation of how to upload to YouTube or pictures to b and c I'll give it a go Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259073-so-magnets/#findComment-3153365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venerable Jazzman Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 There's a very handy guide to posting pics in the B&C 101 section, here, or how to set up your own B&C gallery, here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259073-so-magnets/#findComment-3153550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gondow Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 If you drill a hole in the model, use a smaller sized drill, attach the magnet to the flat side and you have a very good tool for fitting the magnes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259073-so-magnets/#findComment-3153576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I use 1mm x 2mm x 0.5mm for this and it works, but it tends to kind of rotate so you might wanna try pinning as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259073-so-magnets/#findComment-3153986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 One of them is a perfect fit. I think it is 3x2mm circular magnets. You can clip off the nub on the back of the marine, use a dremmel large burr to make an indentation, then pop the magnet in there and one in the backpack and it fits perfectly! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259073-so-magnets/#findComment-3154053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Actually no, you only need 3x1mm circular magnets Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259073-so-magnets/#findComment-3154058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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