MagicMan Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I had a squad of five scouts deployed behind an Aegis defence line between 12 and 18 inches away from my opponent. They were positioned behind the large parts of the defence line, so that only gun barrels could be seen. By what i can tell from the LoS rules, they count as not being able to be seen. My opponent argued that since i could draw line of sight through the gun-slits in the defence line to his units, he could also see me, and i could not infiltrate. Is this true? On another note, since i could not be seen, could i fire through these gun slits without fear of retaliation? Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259304-infiltratinglos/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axagoras Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 The aegis line has to be in your deployment so how was it 12 inches away from the enemy? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259304-infiltratinglos/#findComment-3153843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted August 20, 2012 Author Share Posted August 20, 2012 We were using the barricades as general terrain across the battlefield, i hadn't bought it as part of my army. It was just a few of the walls. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259304-infiltratinglos/#findComment-3153845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axagoras Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 In that case you couldn't because he could see you, unless every part of the model was hidden from sight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259304-infiltratinglos/#findComment-3153848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted August 20, 2012 Author Share Posted August 20, 2012 From the PoV of each of his units, everything but the gun barrels were hidden from sight. The barricades were placed in one of the corners of the board, so there was noone behind them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259304-infiltratinglos/#findComment-3153850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 The gun barrels hsould not have counted for LOS purposes, but there is no physical way you could have LOS through the gun slits, without those same models having LOS to you unless you spend 15 minutes with a laser pointer adjusting each and every model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259304-infiltratinglos/#findComment-3153870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted August 20, 2012 Author Share Posted August 20, 2012 Hah fair enough. I was happy enough to not shoot, and not be shot at. I just wondered about the gun-slits in the barricades. Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259304-infiltratinglos/#findComment-3153892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 infiltrate 18 away and scout move 6".. same thing as infiltrating 12 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259304-infiltratinglos/#findComment-3154129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 Thanks GC, i forgot about the scout move. But in this case, i could have infiltrated 12 and moved 6'' closer, right? That would have been sweet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259304-infiltratinglos/#findComment-3154259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Thanks GC, i forgot about the scout move. But in this case, i could have infiltrated 12 and moved 6'' closer, right? That would have been sweet. nope im afraid scout moves are capped at 12 from the enemy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259304-infiltratinglos/#findComment-3154264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasterfree Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 In that case you couldn't because he could see you, unless every part of the model was hidden from sight. LOS must be to the body of a model, not wings, gun barrels, massive giant ear lobes.... The gun barrels hsould not have counted for LOS purposes, but there is no physical way you could have LOS through the gun slits, without those same models having LOS to you unless you spend 15 minutes with a laser pointer adjusting each and every model. qft and yeah, GC8 has it about right here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259304-infiltratinglos/#findComment-3154413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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