Cpt_Reaper Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Greetings all. Before I left my home town I was able to purchase my friend's Space Marine army which was quite sizable. I was also given an Ultramarines and an Ork army that my brother-in-law had (he was the third owner of each...I could go on about how badly some of those models were painted and made but maybe another time.) While transferring some of the models from Space Marine army #1 to my Angels of Shadow I got the the lone drop pod...the owner had let a mutual friend build it. Now, said mutual friend was by no means a bad builder or painter but this time he failed terribly. One door never opened and 4 never shut. While struggling to unbuild it (it's a word) I had to wonder why would you let anyone else build your expensive models just in case this happens. Also I dislike the notion of letting anyone paint your models. Commissions are different. It's your scheme painted to a higher skill (or simply faster) than you currently posses and can act as a push to improve. So what are your opinions? Is it alright to let others build or paint your models? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
reckoning Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 If I pay them. But part of this hobby, IMO, is building and painting your army. Giving it your character. I guess it depends on how you spend your money on your hobby. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/#findComment-3155668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I build all my models. This is mostly because that's the part of the hobby I enjoy most. However, I am perfectly happy to let one of the excellent painters I know go over them with a brush afterwards, because painting more than one or two of everything makes me lose interest in them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/#findComment-3155694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 My room mate painted Saint Celestine for me. She is a better painter than I so when she asked if she could paint Celestine for me, of course I said yes. She wanted to do something nice for me and I accepted the offer. In the case of the OP, what if she messed it up or ruined the model? So what? It's only money. I can buy another model for less than I spend on coffee in a week. I can't buy what she gave me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/#findComment-3155760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Personally I love building and painting even if I muck it up but if that not your thing and you have a few extra car payments burning a hole in your pocket go for it, but you'd be missing out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/#findComment-3155827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I can understand why some people might want others to paint their army or a centre piece model but that'll never be for me. My army is just that - mine. I assembled them and I painted them so they are my project in entirety. Most of the time I buy them too :D Yes painting is part of the hobby but so is gaming and I don't hear people saying those who collect only to paint aren't "true hobbyists" or whatever so why do people claim the opposite is true? As long as you're honest about not painting your army/certain models should someone ask I don't see how anybody could have an issue with it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/#findComment-3155889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Carmine Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Yes painting is part of the hobby but so is gaming and I don't hear people saying those who collect only to paint aren't "true hobbyists" or whatever so why do people claim the opposite is true? As long as you're honest about not painting your army/certain models should someone ask I don't see how anybody could have an issue with it. This! If somebody wants to let someone else build and paint their army for them so what? It doesn't affect me or my enjoyment of the hobby. I can't abide this elitist mentality that pops up in the internet community from time to time, it seems that there's always someone ready to whinge about how someone else 'isn't doing it right'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/#findComment-3155893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Angelus Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 My other half keeps asking to paint something, so i've just ordered some bits for her to try. I'm quite precious over my army (despite not being a great painter) so i'm a little uncomfortable letting her loose on something I "need". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/#findComment-3155912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 ^^; The first time I let my partner paint one of my models, I ended up with a sparkly, pink-and-teal Devilfish. I left it that way. It doesn't mesh with the handful of other Tau I have (who are all black-and-bone), but it still looks good on its own somehow. So yeah, I let my partner paint my things when she asks... just like she tells me to build her models for her. ><))'> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/#findComment-3155973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I'm just a bit anal about my toy soldiers and want them to look like they all belong to the same army. If someone else paints up one of my models it will look different and that will just cause me to rock back and forth, quietly sobbing. A bit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/#findComment-3155975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hwarang Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I would be inclined to say "definitely, never ever." Building and especially painting are the main parts of the hobby for. But I do hate me some mold lines! Drilling barrels also sucks. I'm not particularly fond of priming either. I might be inclined to pay someone to do those things for me, but definitely never ever paint. I would entertain the idea of a commission from a really top end artist (Tomasewski, Bohun, Lamb, The Yellow One, Artur, Wettergren...) if and only if I could sit in the whole time and watch. And ask questions. Yes painting is part of the hobby but so is gaming and I don't hear people saying those who collect only to paint aren't "true hobbyists" or whatever so why do people claim the opposite is true? As long as you're honest about not painting your army/certain models should someone ask I don't see how anybody could have an issue with it. This is profound to me. I'm generally a painting snob and cannot stand (but will if I have to) playing unpainted armies. But I don't play that much. I haven't played any at all since 6th came out, and probably played 2 games tops during 2012. Warriorfish has pointed out a hypocritical outlook of which I've often been guilty. I only partake in half of the hobby, so I will no longer have qualms with someone only partaking in the other half. Thanks Warrior fish. Nice topic. -CH Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/#findComment-3156047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnvilofFenris Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Personally, I will always build and paint my own models. It's the aspect of the hobby I most enjoy, so doesn't make sense for me to have someone else do it for me. On the other hand, my friend and regular opponent has no interest in the 'hobby' side of things, enjoying the actual gaming instead, so I have built and painted his army for him. It's a win win, he gets a fully painted to army to play with, and I get to convert and paint two armies without going bankrupt! As has been mentioned before, if some people only like to model and paint, why shouldn't others only like to play? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/#findComment-3156052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterdyne Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I'd like to paint Sedition Wars with my gaming group - all of us doing something. That'd be nice. Might do the same with the Warhammer Quest monsters... and Space Hulk... We have a Wild West game we play, where me, George and Chris have all painted minis and our mate (and host) has the table and terrain done. It's really nice to have a fully painted game where everyone's done something. We've been threatening to get our own kill teams for 40k sorted for a few years now... just hasn't happened yet; it's hard when everyone's busy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/#findComment-3156071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecritter Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Well, I designed my army but had and excellent artist actually put them together (with the parts I send in the way I wanted) and paint them for me. I'm very happy with the outcome ... and it's totally mine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/#findComment-3156076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysere Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Greetings all. Before I left my home town I was able to purchase my friend's Space Marine army which was quite sizable. I was also given an Ultramarines and an Ork army that my brother-in-law had (he was the third owner of each...I could go on about how badly some of those models were painted and made but maybe another time.) While transferring some of the models from Space Marine army #1 to my Angels of Shadow I got the the lone drop pod...the owner had let a mutual friend build it. Now, said mutual friend was by no means a bad builder or painter but this time he failed terribly. One door never opened and 4 never shut. While struggling to unbuild it (it's a word) I had to wonder why would you let anyone else build your expensive models just in case this happens. Also I dislike the notion of letting anyone paint your models. Commissions are different. It's your scheme painted to a higher skill (or simply faster) than you currently posses and can act as a push to improve. So what are your opinions? Is it alright to let others build or paint your models? I actually had this exact same problem. (Have yet to clean it up and put it back together) Thankfully he only got around to priming the disaster of a drop pod. Personally I take pride in my ability to paint my models and convert them myself, I'll ask for pointers for conversions and painting and that is it. On that same note I am more then willing to help other people build and paint their models. I've made a chaos lord before for a friend and he turned out pretty good. Usually they only let me if they know I can do a better job then they can at the time, or if it's for a conversion they don't know how to do. (Like Combi weapons, I've made a few combi-flamers and a combi-melta before) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/#findComment-3156078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamwulf Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 For me, it's more about the hobby than it is playing the game these days. I love putting the models together and painting them! Really fuels my imagination, ya know? Helps me relax, tune out the rest of the world, and just focus on a particular shade of color, and how the paint flows onto the mini. It's a Zen Thing, ya know? That's not for everyone. Some people think they just don't have the talent or skills to pull off that portion of the hobby. I say Bah! You should have seen some of my earliest models. Wow! What a disaster. I stuck with it, and today, I can assemble and paint some pretty good looking models if I do say so myself. If someone just doesn't want to assemble or paint, and pay or buy from someone else or to do it for them, all the power to them! As long as they never take credit for someone's work, it's OK. We assemble, paint, play, collect as part of the hobby, and you get out of the hobby what you put into it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/#findComment-3158417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 I have some models done by other people. At Adepticon this year, someone borrowed a significant part of my BA horde to play in the Team tournament. But since he's a better painter than me (well, pretty much everyone is) he stripped my paint work and redid the figures. And Ceasarian on this forum painted a Storm Raven for me (which is great since I really didn't want to paint my Storm Ravens). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/#findComment-3158451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudblinker Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 For me; everything in my army needs to be built and painted by me. I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing or a wrong thing to have someone build and or paint something for you; but something about it just doesn't sit right for me and my armies. I've had a friend offer to help me paint a batch of foul xenos that will not be named here, but I had to respectfully decline the offer as I would just feel funny if part of my army wasn't made or painted by me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/#findComment-3159168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I don't care either way. Though, I would much rather face a painted army, than a horde of gray... :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/#findComment-3159313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I don't care either way. Though, I would much rather face a painted army, than a horde of gray... :lol: We must never face each other :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/#findComment-3159317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamafore Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I don't care either way. Though, I would much rather face a painted army, than a horde of gray... :lol: Does that include an army that has been painted a nice neutral gray? :D OT, I pretty much echo what has been said, I paint all mine and probably wouldn't pay someone to do it for me, even if I had the extra cash. It's what I do to relax after work. That said, if you want to commision, more power to you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/#findComment-3159339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I love playing the game, I also love assembling the models. However I find painting an army boring, a chore. I'm quite happy to paint the odd miniature here and there, but a whole army of models painted the same? not for me. So I have paid someone to paint my models (15 paladins), and for malifaux I have bought some prepainted stuff from eBay. I'm more then happy to admit to people that I didn't paint the models myself, because I didn't, I also have no issue playing vs unpainted models (as long as I can tell what is what), as most of my army is unpainted (apart from my draigowing). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/#findComment-3159384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiron Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Well, I insist on designating my armies as Primary and Secondary. My primary army (Chaos Space Marines) are close to my heart. I like them, I am writing stories about them and I feel proud of them and their colors. I couldn't stand if any model would not be by my assembly and painting (even while I am not very good at it). Secondary army, on the other hand is army I like (Flesh Tearers) but I can imagine I would let someone really good at this (Vorganov, my brother, you know I am talking about you) to paint some special models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/#findComment-3159388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I don't care either way. Though, I would much rather face a painted army, than a horde of gray... :tu: Does that include an army that has been painted a nice neutral gray? :P I'm a Space Wolves player...what do you think... :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259422-letting-someone-else-buildpaint-your-models/#findComment-3159406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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