Lord Kallozar Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Hi all. Not too sure if this is the right place to post this but it is a Blood Angels related question, so i thought i would try here. Anyway, concerning the origins of the Knights of Blood (Chaos warband), I have heard that they are indeed the same as the Blood Angels Successor Chapter of the same name. Is this correct? If so where is the evidence? Cheers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259450-knights-of-blood/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 That is the evidence... They both have the same names. The colour scheme is different as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259450-knights-of-blood/#findComment-3156296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 It could be a case that a particular group from the Excommunicate chapter had split from the still loyalist driven elements and fallen. Thus the warband of the same name. Just a thought. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259450-knights-of-blood/#findComment-3156311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 And that is the only evidence - a name issue, nothing more. The Knights of Blood are still Sons of Sanguinius, and while declared traitors by the High Lords of Terra, they are loyal to the Imperium...not its bureaucracy. ;) The other Knights of Blood are a Chaos Warband and have no relation to the blood of Sanguinius whatsoever. Snorri Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259450-knights-of-blood/#findComment-3156313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 The other Knights of Blood are a Chaos Warband and have no relation to the blood of Sanguinius whatsoever. Unless you want them to... It is your hobby. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259450-knights-of-blood/#findComment-3156844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 The other Knights of Blood are a Chaos Warband and have no relation to the blood of Sanguinius whatsoever. Unless you want them to... It is your hobby. Which makes asking questions about them obsolete if you've already made up your mind about them. From the fluff we have at hand, which isn't much I admit, the Knights of Blood are still true to their Legion and the Primarch, even though they have been excommunicated. ;) Snorri Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259450-knights-of-blood/#findComment-3156851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Tru dat, for want of a better expression. While they have the same name, they may be the same faction, entirely different, or somewhere in between. Look to the chaos warbands, all of which have varying levels of corruption. Some, none or all of the knights may have fallen completely to chaos, and these fallen knights may or may not be the same as the ones in C:CSM. The background is what you interpret it to be. Don't forget that individuals and squads of marines from imperial chapters have fallen to chaos before without the rest of the chapter being declared excommunicate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259450-knights-of-blood/#findComment-3156871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Invictus Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 And that is the only evidence - a name issue, nothing more. The Knights of Blood are still Sons of Sanguinius, and while declared traitors by the High Lords of Terra, they are loyal to the Imperium...not its bureaucracy. ;) The other Knights of Blood are a Chaos Warband and have no relation to the blood of Sanguinius whatsoever. Snorri As a Knight of Blood I appreciate your distinction ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259450-knights-of-blood/#findComment-3156933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Kallozar Posted August 24, 2012 Author Share Posted August 24, 2012 Thanks guys for the input and clearing things up. I was originally of mind that the Knights of Blood (Chaos) wre a completely seperate faction altogether from the "loyal" Knights of Blood, and you guys have definitely confirmed that for me. cheers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259450-knights-of-blood/#findComment-3157078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiron Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Well, Lord Kallozar, I am checking the Blood Angels Codex. They are Blood Angels Successors but they have been deemed renegade at the beginning of M41. They have, however not turn to Chaos (is written in the codex). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259450-knights-of-blood/#findComment-3157114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Eisenhorn Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 The Knights of Blood chapter actually are on record as having come to the defense of Baal against the Tyranid fleet, although they avoided contacting any other chapters while deployed. The Lamenters, while a cool chapter, actually didn't help out (one of the few BA successor not to show up) but you can probably chalk that up to their numbers being so decimated at the moment. The BA successor Knights of Blood for that reason alone don't really strike me as having anything to do with a Chaos warband. They are just a tad too enthusiastic about killing for the Inquisition's taste. http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7746/knightsofblood2.jpg http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/5764/shield3.jpg http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/2879/knightsofblood1.jpg http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1391/dscf1707v.jpg http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5358/knightsofbloodsergeant.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259450-knights-of-blood/#findComment-3159373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiron Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Wooooow! They look awesome! Nice painting. I like them myself. If I wouldn't be making Flesh Tearers, I would go for Knights of Blood as well. They are definatelly not chaos. I think it's stated in Codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259450-knights-of-blood/#findComment-3159383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Chris Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Personally I assume the real knights of Blood have done nothing wrong at all, but in an act typical of Imperial Bureaucracy, have been excommunicated because of the actions of the Chaos warband of the same name. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259450-knights-of-blood/#findComment-3161015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venemox Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 If you squint, and hold each book a bit sideways, the paint schemes are strikingly similar. Silver on the bottom running to blood red up top. One is just... more stylized. I always fancied the Chaos group as how the rest of theImpetium see them, and the Blood Angels group as how they and others scions of Sanguinious see them. Both are valid, yet differing, fluffy interpretations of an excommunicated 'trator' marine chapter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259450-knights-of-blood/#findComment-3161883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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