DJ Dizzy Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Hey there, after having a look at the new starter set, I was wondering whether or not The Fallen joined other legions after the fall, while maintaining some of their DA iconography. Specifically, I want to paint the librarian and the interrogater-chaplain into a Word Bearer sorcerer and Dark Apostle. Thanks in advance for any help! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259606-fallen-and-iconography/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Completely up to you. Just about all of the above has happened. From pretending to still be loyalists, to outright supporting the Legions, to becoming Mercenaries or Warlords. Try to keep them in Word Bearer colors or Crusade Dark Angels Black. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259606-fallen-and-iconography/#findComment-3158288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 I would imagine more than a few fallen have found their way into the ranks of the Red Corsairs... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259606-fallen-and-iconography/#findComment-3158296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Thane Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Well from what I saw from the rare few 'appearances' of the Fallen in stories, they tend to have no emblems and heraldry indicating allegiance. Probably to make it hard to identify them as former DA. Though if one joined a powerful Wordbearer contingent, it is not unlikely he may have kept some old symbols to spite his foes. Really sending out the message.. I'm a Fallen and I taunt thee! mwuhahahaha... Though I got the impression WB's would be inclined to discard such symbols and replace everything with more Chaos related religious symbols etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259606-fallen-and-iconography/#findComment-3158317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amalricus Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 I have the feeling WB are a very conservative bunch, they do not accept anything in their ranks, i think it would be very hard for a fallen squad / band to join a host and gleefully become a word bearer. They would be accepted as marines, but would not have the same respect as pure-pure gene word bearers, and thuss would not be able to become dark apostles, first acolytes or coryphai. But you could use them as sorcerer / captain of a fallen host who has joined a WB host, or a small offset of a WB host who joined a fallen warband. Modelling wise i'd keep the primary color black, with some legion specific colours ( helmets, shoulderpads, a red eight-pointed star on the chest, or whatever) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259606-fallen-and-iconography/#findComment-3158367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dizzy Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share Posted August 26, 2012 Well from what I saw from the rare few 'appearances' of the Fallen in stories, they tend to have no emblems and heraldry indicating allegiance. Probably to make it hard to identify them as former DA. Though if one joined a powerful Wordbearer contingent, it is not unlikely he may have kept some old symbols to spite his foes. Really sending out the message.. I'm a Fallen and I taunt thee! mwuhahahaha... Though I got the impression WB's would be inclined to discard such symbols and replace everything with more Chaos related religious symbols etc. Cypher still has his backpack-DA-icon-thingy iirc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259606-fallen-and-iconography/#findComment-3158707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caffeineated Chaos Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Well from what I saw from the rare few 'appearances' of the Fallen in stories, they tend to have no emblems and heraldry indicating allegiance. Probably to make it hard to identify them as former DA. Though if one joined a powerful Wordbearer contingent, it is not unlikely he may have kept some old symbols to spite his foes. Really sending out the message.. I'm a Fallen and I taunt thee! mwuhahahaha... Though I got the impression WB's would be inclined to discard such symbols and replace everything with more Chaos related religious symbols etc. Cypher still has his backpack-DA-icon-thingy iirc. yeah but cypher may/may not be trying to seek redemption for the fallen who regret their rebellion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259606-fallen-and-iconography/#findComment-3158768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Machinum Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 My first band of Fallen were played as Word Bearers, calling themselves the "Sword Bearers". Each carried the "Lion's Sword" model bit that the Cypher model uses, taunting the DA with their Primarch's sword. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259606-fallen-and-iconography/#findComment-3158853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dizzy Posted August 27, 2012 Author Share Posted August 27, 2012 I've decided to just make a fallen warband out of the entire box. That way I can put all my hardearned cash to good use. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259606-fallen-and-iconography/#findComment-3159335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Go for it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259606-fallen-and-iconography/#findComment-3159620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyl- Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 This kit is a little easier to convert for our purposes than the orks in the last ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259606-fallen-and-iconography/#findComment-3159639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipherChost Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 This kit is a little easier to convert for our purposes than the orks in the last I agree, I plan to alter a good portion of the dark angels to add to my ranks of the fallen when I get the starter set. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259606-fallen-and-iconography/#findComment-3160751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Machinum Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I last played my Fallen as loyalists in 4th edition. I've been considering loyalists again, but the Chaos 'dex is calling. I may have to break down and get a 5th edition codex, but I'm trying my best to hold out for a new one. I'm thinking of going back to Word Bearers, if only to make a Dark Apostle out of the new DA Interrogator Chaplain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259606-fallen-and-iconography/#findComment-3160767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dizzy Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 Just another question. Would it be possible that the fallen would wear green colour armor in order to dupe some guardsmen to fight for them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259606-fallen-and-iconography/#findComment-3164289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I would most definitely go with yes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259606-fallen-and-iconography/#findComment-3164365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristoff Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 ...I may have to break down and get a 5th edition codex... Good luck finding one. There is no 5th Edition Chaos Marine codex. Only Ultras, Wolves, and Blood Angels received 5th Editions out of the normal marines (Grey Knights, not normal). Black Templar is 4th, and Dark Angels and Chaos are 4.5. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259606-fallen-and-iconography/#findComment-3164464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Machinum Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 ...I may have to break down and get a 5th edition codex... Good luck finding one. There is no 5th Edition Chaos Marine codex. Only Ultras, Wolves, and Blood Angels received 5th Editions out of the normal marines (Grey Knights, not normal). Black Templar is 4th, and Dark Angels and Chaos are 4.5. Wow. Thanks, I didn't know that. I may have the 4E one packed away. I better get looking before the new one hurris up and arrives. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259606-fallen-and-iconography/#findComment-3164597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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