rx781a Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 question. does anyone know what the short stories by Dan Abnett and Graham McNeil are going to be about? are they old reprinted HH shorts or new stories? Thanks -taken from product description- Shadows of Treachery is an upcoming anthology that features short stories by Dan Abnett, Graham McNeill, and Gav Thorpe, along with two novella-length stories. From the battlefields of Phall and Istvaan, to the haunted shadows of Terra itself – the greatest war in the history of Mankind rages on. While the Traitor Legions continue their campaign of terror across the galaxy, preparations are made for the defence of the Imperial Palace and the final, inevitable reckoning that must yet come between Horus and the Emperor of Mankind. In the first novella, Crimson Fist by John French, we learn of the fate of Primarch Rogal Dorn and his Imperial Fists fleet originally sent to Istvaan III. In the second novella, Prince of Crows by Aaron Dembski-Bowden, the story descends deeper into the darkness of the Night Lords Legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Angel Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 question. does anyone know what the short stories by Dan Abnett and Graham McNeil are going to be about? are they old reprinted HH shorts or new stories? The Crimson Fist-John French/New Novella The Dark King-Graham McNeill The Lightning Tower-Dan Abnett The Kaban Project-Graham McNeill Raven's Flight-Gav Thorpe Death of the Silversmith-Graham McNeill Prince of Crows-Aaron Dembski-Bowden/ New Novella Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3158480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rx781a Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share Posted August 26, 2012 ......WELL BALLS! i do want all of those printed and on my nooks but still....balls Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3158488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I'd buy it even just for Prince of Crows Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3160159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Heresy Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I'd buy it even just for Prince of Crows I'm hoping Prince of Crows comes out as an eBook novella...then I can just buy that (as I have all the others as it is). Which likely means it won't, curse them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3160190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 They should come out separately as e-book downloads. Usually do :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3160259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sponsra Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Didn't realise tha The dark king, The lightning tower and Ravens flight was gonna be in ther. Great, now I don´t have to listen to cheesy Audio-dramas :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3160962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Angel Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Didn't realise tha The dark king, The lightning tower and Ravens flight was gonna be in ther. Great, now I don´t have to listen to cheesy Audio-dramas :cuss I really like the audio dramas :wub: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3161074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPetersson Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Didn't realise tha The dark king, The lightning tower and Ravens flight was gonna be in ther. Great, now I don´t have to listen to cheesy Audio-dramas :cuss I really like the audio dramas :wub: I thought I was going to hate them, but I have discovered that I really like them. In fact, most of the Audio Dramas and the Audio Books are really good. The only ones that aren't, are the few that sound like they were read by a text-to-speech program that doesn't understand the flow of speech... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3161097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Engel Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Time to stop buying eBook Novellas... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3161282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethrion Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Would I be right in assuming that in the short story 'Death of a Silversmith' the murderer of the artisan is Serghar Targost and the medallions he is asking to be made is to mark those warriors who are members of the initially secretive warrior lodges? What I don't quite understand is the need to murder him at all, let alone in such a malicious way... I suppose he might have already fallen to the predations of chaos even at this point. Edit: Just finished Prince of Crows - another awesome story about the Night Lords! The chapter where Jago...my apologies...Sevatar goes into Curze's dream was just brilliant at understanding the whole psyche of the Night Haunter and the reasons for him "hating" his legion so much. Sevatar's rebuttal is equally awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3170167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Would I be right in assuming that in the short story 'Death of a Silversmith' the murderer of the artisan is Serghar Targost and the medallions he is asking to be made is to mark those warriors who are members of the initially secretive warrior lodges? What I don't quite understand is the need to murder him at all, let alone in such a malicious way... I suppose he might have already fallen to the predations of chaos even at this point. Edit: Just finished Prince of Crows - another awesome story about the Night Lords! The chapter where Jago...my apologies...Sevatar goes into Curze's dream was just brilliant at understanding the whole psyche of the Night Haunter and the reasons for him "hating" his legion so much. Sevatar's rebuttal is equally awesome. Argh, the spoilers! Don't spoil Death of a Silversmith for the ones unfortunate enough to not have read it yet! I read it quite a lot of months ago, and it was fantastic. But yes, it is him. Back then I opened up Collected Visions, that massive artbook, because I remembered an artwork of him being included, and he's described just as he was depicted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3170625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Would I be right in assuming that in the short story 'Death of a Silversmith' the murderer of the artisan is Serghar Targost and the medallions he is asking to be made is to mark those warriors who are members of the initially secretive warrior lodges? What I don't quite understand is the need to murder him at all, let alone in such a malicious way... I suppose he might have already fallen to the predations of chaos even at this point. Edit: Just finished Prince of Crows - another awesome story about the Night Lords! The chapter where Jago...my apologies...Sevatar goes into Curze's dream was just brilliant at understanding the whole psyche of the Night Haunter and the reasons for him "hating" his legion so much. Sevatar's rebuttal is equally awesome. Seriously dude, learn to use spoilers. I haven't read those yet, so could you have at least begun your post with "Warning: contains spoilers" or something, if you don't understand how to use spoiler-tags? I mean, I understand this is a topic about the book, but I was just reading it to get peoples general impressions of the quality, not to get the plot-lines spoiled... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3170906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethrion Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Would I be right in assuming that in the short story 'Death of a Silversmith' the murderer of the artisan is Serghar Targost and the medallions he is asking to be made is to mark those warriors who are members of the initially secretive warrior lodges? What I don't quite understand is the need to murder him at all, let alone in such a malicious way... I suppose he might have already fallen to the predations of chaos even at this point. Edit: Just finished Prince of Crows - another awesome story about the Night Lords! The chapter where Jago...my apologies...Sevatar goes into Curze's dream was just brilliant at understanding the whole psyche of the Night Haunter and the reasons for him "hating" his legion so much. Sevatar's rebuttal is equally awesome. Seriously dude, learn to use spoilers. I haven't read those yet, so could you have at least begun your post with "Warning: contains spoilers" or something, if you don't understand how to use spoiler-tags? I mean, I understand this is a topic about the book, but I was just reading it to get peoples general impressions of the quality, not to get the plot-lines spoiled... Steady on mate I know how to use spoiler tags so no need to be like that. I apologize for ruining the story for you. But in my defense this is a thread about the book so a little bit of a risk from the get go and personally I stay away from them in case I accidentally read something I didn't want to know. Plus you could have just stopped reading my post when you hit the bit at the very beginning where I said "would I be right in assuming that in the short story..." you don't have to keep reading past that point. But again I am sorry. Luckily it is only a brief 7 or so pages and not a full book's plot twist, so nothing too much has been lost. p.s. spoilers added...I can't add spoilers to your post though sorry Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3170967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 The Crimson Fist-John French/New NovellaThe Dark King-Graham McNeill The Lightning Tower-Dan Abnett The Kaban Project-Graham McNeill Raven's Flight-Gav Thorpe Death of the Silversmith-Graham McNeill Prince of Crows-Aaron Dembski-Bowden/ New Novella Wow. So, two new stories, 3 audio books put into prose, 2 reprints. Um. I'm not sure how to feel about that. I mean, I'm glad we're starting to see audio books put into prose, but I was kinda hoping for 1 whole book dedicated to it. Plus, the Dark King and the Lightning Tower have been out for-freakin'-ever, why prose 'em up now? Kinda late in the Heresy to be going back over those stories. Ah well. Still buying it, just slightly disappointed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3171118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Wait, what are the reprints? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3171120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Death of a Silversmith was in the 2011 BL gamesday book, which I guess is ok, as many may not have had a chance to read it. Warning you though, it's not what you'd expect from McNeil. The Kaban Project was first shown in the Collected Visions CCG book. It would have made a hell of a lot more sense to read that short before Mechanicus. A day late, a dollar short. The Dark King and The Lightning Tower... Again, I'm glad the prose versions are coming out (I despise Audio Books), but these should have been out years ago. Plus, these are already out in prose, if you know where to look. BL put out the chapbook a few years back, if I remember correctly. *Shrug* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3171133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Okay. Well I never read these stories or heard audios so to me they are all new. Which is why I was kind of like "Wait, what? Reprints? Where? Do I have these?" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3171149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 To be fair, I've been told the Crimson Fist audiobook was pretty :devil: ing awesome, and of course, we Night Lord fans are impatiently waiting for Prince of Crows, lol. The others are ok, I was just saying that the timing seems really...off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3171352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Engel Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 To be fair, I've been told the Crimson Fist audiobook was pretty :rolleyes: ing awesome, and of course, we Night Lord fans are impatiently waiting for Prince of Crows, lol. The others are ok, I was just saying that the timing seems really...off. There was an audiobook? I read the eBook and it was pretty rad. Not sure about the use of first person, but I enjoyed it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3171502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Argh, I meant Ebook. My bad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3171508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memnoch Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Ahhh damn it didnt realise the majority of the book is printed versions of the audio books-still Ill be buying it anyway for Prince of Crows. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3172758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arachnid99 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 I've literally just finished reading it and first things first. Bugger the Dark Angels, one of my least favourite Legions beat the Night Lords, thanks to A D-B's Talos series my favourite Chaos Legion, like a red-headed step-child. Any Angels fans who worry about their Legion being beaten up clearly read a different book, the main problem is in the other direction. The Lion is shown acting like a Primarch; commanding his Legion, beating seven shades of poo out of everyone in sight and generally being a demi-god. Curze is shown as a frothing psychotic who deliberately trashes his own Legions battle plans! Towards the end of the book the scene where he screws up the carefully crafted battle plan and launches a suicidal attack on the Invincible Reason is just made of stupid, though it doesn't come across too badly as Curze has been carefully depicted as being nuts from the start of the novel. However the fleshing out of Night Haunters backstory is fantastic, you really see where he's coming from and why he's such a damaged individual and it's not just Nostramo. Sevatar is clearly shown as a combat beast though we only have authorial fiat he's one of the finest fighters in the Legions; Abbaddon, Raldoran and Lucius are all more "knife through hot butter" than Sevatar. Still he does beat up some tactical marines but what do you expect? He's a First Captain, tactical marines are his midday snack, and based on that novel I mean that literally. He is the most flat out creepy character I've read outside of crime fiction, I don't know how A D-B did it but he reads like a complete and total psychopath; if Khârn is a few fries short of a Happy Meal then with Sevatar they forgot to put the burger in. I'm actually slightly concerned, BL is meant to be relatively family friendly because of the age range of 40k players and I would not want a 13 year old to read the Sevatar sections, this is a depiction of an incredibly damaged mind who is pretty clearly clinically psychopathic. In fact I'm really surprised no one at BL has brought it up. Anyway great novella, absolute must read for any Heresy fan, especially any Dark Angels fan. Just don't give it to your little brother unless you want him to wet the bed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3172834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haranin Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Interesting info for the black templars. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3173957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malika666 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 What interesting info? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259626-shadows-of-treachery/#findComment-3173970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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