Pig Of Sparta Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I've been posting about these mini's in the WIP forum for the last week or so but having got them finished today I thought I'd throw up some pictures of them in here: http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8456/7893424428_204388370d_c.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8457/7893414856_7e73399b13_c.jpg I started out with a single mini (the 'champion') but after some really positive feedback from the Fraters in the WIP forum this project rapidly grew into a whole demi-squad of these specialists. All that's missing is the marking on the left shoulder of the 'champion'. I've left this for now as I thought a really cool way of tying this squad in with the rest of the army that I'm planning would be to use a either the number or symbol of the Word Bearers host that that these Iron Warriors are fighting for/with. Might not quite fit with fluff but I thought it might make for an interesting hook for some back story to the army... "What is a Siege Scout?" You might ask, well the story I've come up with is this... "...a throw back to the heady days of the Great Crusade as well as the days of darkness that followed, Siege Scouts were a utilised as a semi-disposable asset by the Iron Warriors Legion to determine the best avenues for attack once an enemy stronghold had been completely encircled. They were equipped with high resolution pict recorders to better allow the Legion's senior Captains and Commanders to assess the intelligence they gathered. This served a dual purpose in that if the Siege Scout was killed prior to returning to his own lines, the vidlogs would not be lost as the cessation of his heartbeats would trigger a secured micro-burst transmission of all the data within the pict recorder to a dedicated intel/assess cogitator, this function could also be triggered manually by mind impulse link if the Scout was incapacitated. Accompanied by a cadre of veterans they were also often used to force breaches in an enemy's defences, a tactic still known as 'the Forlorn Hope'. Though there are no known contemporary accounts of the Iron Warriors continued use of Astartes in this fashion, it is rumoured in some circles that the Imperial Fists, arguably superior to the sons of Peturabo in siege-craft use similar units where circumstances call for them, however evidence for this is purely anecdotal..." Warriors of Antiquity vol III, Augustus Olia (sequestered) M37 As you might also notice for Traitor Astartes this demi-squad isn't very spiky. That's just down to my aesthetic tastes, I've nothing wrong with spikes per se, but in my opinion spikes not always a Traitor/Renegade make. Some mini's look cool with spiky bits, but I don't like the 'weld a wrought iron gate on that and it's Chaos' look that a lot of the current range of Citadel mini's have. I really like the look of the new Dark Vengeance Traitor Marines, they're almost Rogue Trader-esq in some ways and in my opinion they really reflect the visions of Chaos that have been portrayed in GW artwork better than any of the current miniatures do. It was seeing them that inspired me to start collecting Chaos Marines properly. Anyway my own ramblings aside, comments and criticism are as always very welcome, thanks James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 The squad looks great all finished up mate. Love the fluff you added. I totally agree with you on the spiky nature of the current Chaos models but it look as though GW has addressed that issue. Im itching to get my Dark Vengeance boxes. I got an email yesterday saying they had been despatched. :devil: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3162070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Outstanding work! Lovely colours and great work on the stripes. Kudos! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3162078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestat Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Superb looking squad James! The fact that they are Chaos Marines is not too overt and gives the feel that they are just turning to Chaos - maybe at the start of the Heresy. The fluff is really great too. You've taken peoples ideas and input and melded them together to create a great piece of background to the squad. Now, the real question is - are you going to do a full squad? ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3162531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Awesome IWs. Really like the way you've handled the black. The coppery gold is unusual but looks brilliant with the dark yellow stripes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3162575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcaptainAurelius Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 These are absolutely fantastic! Really like the fluff too, very credible. So I guess you're thinking of making some siege vets to create a forlorn hope right? Say yes. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3163788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 Thanks for all the comments guys: @ Biohazard: my copy of Dark Vengeance arrived today ;) it's a very impressive box. I can't wait to get the clippers and modelling knife on the go... As for the nature of the Chaos mini's I only hope that the theme that's been established in the DV mini's is continued in any new releases that Chaos get in the future. @ Kierdale: thank you. The stripes were the most time consuming aspect of this project. I'm glad to have pulled it off well though, they just wouldn't be Iron Warriors without them :). @ Lestat: you're right they aren't overtly corrupted just now, although to be honest I've never personally seen IW as being that corrupt in appearance (aside from those infected with the Obliterator Virus). I think I might try and incorporate this into my army's fluff though... As for taking people's ideas on board, that's one of the things I love most about the B&C. I don't think these mini's would be what they are if I hadn't posted them on here and had the feedback and support of the B&C fraters 'pushing me on' and to answer your question, no. Not yet. I do want to expand the Iron Warriors contingent of the army but I'm going to leave that until I've got the Dark Vengeance mini's done... @ Isiah: Thanks. Black can be a really annoying colour to deal with when painting (I wouldn't like to tackle a Black Templars army) but I've evolved a fairly simplistic approach to it now. I tend to highlight it subtly and let light do the rest of the work for me. Possibly a cop out approach I know, but it seems to work and I've always thought if it ain't broke, don't fix it. That's not to say I'm not open to exploring other ways of painting black and in fact I have done so in the past, but this technique works well enough for me just now if that makes sense :). The copper/gold colour has evolved over my last few projects where I've experimented with 'warming' my golds/bronzes/coppers/brasses using Ogryn Flesh glazes one they've been highlighted. @ SMcaptainAurelius: thanks. I try to come up with fluffy reasons for a lot of the work I do as it's important to me that it fits in with the history of the 40/30k universe. I've no plans to make more of these vets just now but there will be more Iron Warrior goodness being added eventually I promise. cheers James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3163972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenguard2010 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Top notch work here! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3163977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Interesting concept, and even better execution - well done! Love the use of the older models! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3164307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 @ ravenguard2010: thank you :D @ Chaeron: cheers mate, sometimes I actually do get stuff finished to a good standard :D. Not sure how you mean older models though... The majority of the parts there are from the Forge World mk v armour kit with a couple of Chaos components on the Champion. cheers James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3165535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercadius Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I really, really like the look of this squad. It's like chaos - for real soldiers. Awesome job. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3165697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
subtlebrush Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Wow amazing work! I have to say I am in love with the darker silver for Iron Warriors. Keep up the amazing work mate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3165827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedcarrot Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Really liking the dark look :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3166467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhornateKiller Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Hey James, Great work as always buddy love them. Andy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3172722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexCrute Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 I do very much like the use of the word 'precursor' in the thread title. I shall be here, waiting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3173478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokaero weaponsmith Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Beautiful work would like to know your recipe for your black if I could please. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3174688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 These look great, and it's nice to see some renegades who aren't covered in spikes. What's your recipe for the bases, if you don't mind? My grey rock/ash bases never look that good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3176241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemFX Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I love these guys. I hope your army has more interesting concepts like these. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3176788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted September 16, 2012 Author Share Posted September 16, 2012 thanks for all the comments guys: @ jokaero weaponsmith: I kinda cheat with a lot of my black's just now, it's simply Chaos Black, highlighted with Adeptus Battlegrey then washed with Badab Black to tone the highlight down a little, natural light does the rest :lol:. @ A Kvlt Ghost: I'm not sure whether you mean the painting or construction so I'll cover both; I used superglue to glue small chunks of slate from the GW basing kit onto the bases, then a few patches of small chips of slate from the same kit before using superglue to add sand to complete the base. I've found that while pva glue can be used for many bases superglue provides a much more '3d' texture to the base, I don't really know why it just seems to work. The painting is just as easy, the recipe is Undercoat Chaos Black > Basecoat Adeptus Battlegrey > Drybrush Khemri Brown > Drybrush Dheneb Stone. To offset the colours on the texture of the bases I painted the rims with Charadon Granite. @ Alex Crute: the 'precursor' element of the title is very definite; after seeing the Forge World preview video for the Betrayal book I'm now planning on adding at least one squad of Iron Warriors Cataphractii Terminators to this army... cheers James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3177396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Ah, thanks - it was the painting method I was after. I've been doing mine purely in shades of grey, the khemri brown really adds a lot of depth and I think that's what I'm missing. Going to go try this method out now, actually. Cheers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3177402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Engel Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Using the hazard stripes across the entire shoulder pad is really cool. A very nice touch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3177708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I love everything about these guys. They're amazing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3177892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted September 18, 2012 Author Share Posted September 18, 2012 @ A Kvlt Ghost: no problem mate, hope the paint test went ok :). @ Inquisitor Engel: Thanks, I was a little apprehensive of painting straight lines over a curved surface, and to be honest I think the hazard stripes on both the pauldrons and weapons were the single most time consuming element in painting this squad, if I remember rightly it was about 30 mins per bolter and roughly the same per pauldron too. I'm glad I did it though as I'm really happy with the identity that the marines have, both individually and as a unit. It was good practice for the other Iron Warriors I'm planning to paint in future too :D. @ A D-B: not wishing to sound like a gushing fanboy too much but thank you sir, thank you very much :). James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3179148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 lovely iron warriors bud! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3179173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Engel Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 d, if I remember rightly it was about 30 mins per bolter and roughly the same per pauldron too. I'm glad I did it though as I'm really happy with the identity that the marines have, both individually and as a unit. It was good practice for the other Iron Warriors I'm planning to paint in future too :). :cuss I applaud your dedication sir. Was this because of the yellow over black or to get the straight lines? If the latter, I would like to introduce you to: https://www.tamiyausa.com/articles/feature....?article-id=222 Best. Things. Ever. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/259886-iron-warriors-siege-scouts/#findComment-3186950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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