mavorik Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Is it viable to run a pure DC army in 6th edition? I am yet to play a game with the new rules but I do have the rule book and have been reading through. I have been running a DOA army for sometime in 5th with good success but I am seriously considering making a pure DC army... and perhaps taking one to a tournament. I am not a particularly serious player although I like to be competitive and I'm not sure how competitive a pure DC army would be on a tournament scene with a 1250 points limit. Has anyone run a pure DC army in 6th? How did it go? What are people's general thoughts on the idea of a pure DC army? My concerns include the following; ordinance, high initiative squads with power weapons or similar (grey knights, genestealers, banshees) and also how do I deal with flyers which seem to being playing a big part in 6th from what I have read. Let me know your thoughts Cheers mavorik Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260080-6th-edition-death-company-army/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Kezef Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Most games in 6th ed are objective based. A death company list will have problems as you have to contest every objective to have a chance of winning. You'll need either a firstblood or warlord kill VP to boot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260080-6th-edition-death-company-army/#findComment-3164869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 You deal with Flyers, Halberds and Ordinance with Stormravens. The DC kill everything else. You don't have to take objectives if the enemy are all dead. That said, I don't see them being hugely viable competitively. Having to table every opponent is just too much to ask. EDIT - They'd be great fun to play though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260080-6th-edition-death-company-army/#findComment-3164881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 EDIT - They'd be great fun to play though. And thats all that should matter Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260080-6th-edition-death-company-army/#findComment-3164984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fearlessgod Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 EDIT - They'd be great fun to play though. And thats all that should matter This^ I play a pure DC list for fun. The challenge for me is to take out all of my opponents scoring units, characters and try to table them. It's fun to watch an "over-confident" opponent start to sweat by turn 3 or 4. They start to wonder if they can even claim objectives in the face of my Death Company. Comments of "is that all the models you got?" turn to "this shouldn't be happening. OMG!" Fun stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260080-6th-edition-death-company-army/#findComment-3164997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 EDIT - They'd be great fun to play though. And thats all that should matter I agree but the OP was talking about taking them to a tournament. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260080-6th-edition-death-company-army/#findComment-3165089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedrenael Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I was thinking of this the other day. I think doing this with some guard allies to hold or capture objectives could work. I will playtest it and see what I can come back with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260080-6th-edition-death-company-army/#findComment-3165130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 lol They should definitely have the 'Desperate Allies' rule then "Commissar the Angels in Black have managed to destroy the enemy forces entirely! The day is won" "Yes sergeant. It would appear so. Now have your men reload and take up firing positions embedded in trenches and await my order" "Why would we need to do that Commissar? There are no enemy left?" "....exactly" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260080-6th-edition-death-company-army/#findComment-3165146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedrenael Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 lol They should definitely have the 'Desperate Allies' rule then "Commissar the Angels in Black have managed to destroy the enemy forces entirely! The day is won" "Yes sergeant. It would appear so. Now have your men reload and take up firing positions embedded in trenches and await my order" "Why would we need to do that Commissar? There are no enemy left?" "....exactly" :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260080-6th-edition-death-company-army/#findComment-3165191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Angel Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 lol They should definitely have the 'Desperate Allies' rule then "Commissar the Angels in Black have managed to destroy the enemy forces entirely! The day is won" "Yes sergeant. It would appear so. Now have your men reload and take up firing positions embedded in trenches and await my order" "Why would we need to do that Commissar? There are no enemy left?" "....exactly" Thank you :lol: ^_^ :D I almost snorted my coffee on that, so apt. I am thinking it is not a competitive list but it certainly would be a spoiler list in a tourney. At smaller point games which you mentioned around 1250 there is very likley to a power band that you can use to great effect for an all DC list. I would like to see someone deal with 30 Death company in a 1250 point game. 27 Death company with 6 fists in three pods with Astorath is 1015 Fill out the remaining 235 points with whatever you like maybe a Libby or one less pod and take a larger JP DC squad with infernus pistols and axes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260080-6th-edition-death-company-army/#findComment-3165243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 DC and Dreads in Pods backed up by Astorath in a Raven with a Dread and another squad would be fun at 1750+ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260080-6th-edition-death-company-army/#findComment-3165275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brynjolf Irontooth Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Well, when it comes to damage dealing potential, DC are underpriced. So just focus on your opponents scoring units as said and make sure you kill his warlord (and don't lose yours), get one of your DC in his deployment (while make sure he can't) and try to get first blood (a droppod with inferno pistols might be the way to go). You might actually win your games. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260080-6th-edition-death-company-army/#findComment-3165398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 DC cannot score or contest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260080-6th-edition-death-company-army/#findComment-3165404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Drake Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 See, I really don't see 100% DC being fun at all. I tried it in 5th @ found it boring. DC still get expensive quickly & you're stuck taking Astorath who I'm not sold on being that cost. That said, I think if you ran a bunch of MM attack bikes (6-9) & 30 DC with bolters in Rhinos as the core you could have 'some' competitive success. Allying with IG sounds like a neat idea & those guardsmen can hold objectives too. - Dallas Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260080-6th-edition-death-company-army/#findComment-3165463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brynjolf Irontooth Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 DC cannot score or contest. Is this a reply on my post? In that case I want to say that they indeed can't score, but they surely can deny. Being an denial unit is the only requirement for linebreaker (you don't have to be scoring, though you may). Check our codex and BRB if you don't agree with me (you'll see I'm right :) :) ). So killing all enemy's scoring units (or denying them the controle of objectives) and focussing on the 3 secondary objectives might win you the battle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260080-6th-edition-death-company-army/#findComment-3165556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Yep, my bad. I was under the impression that a unit that couldn't score couldn't deny either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260080-6th-edition-death-company-army/#findComment-3165576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavorik Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 Thanks for the replies everyone. There seems to be mixed opinion. From what I have read elsewhere I get the same feeling - they would be fun to play but aren't competitive enough to run on the tournament scene. Looks like I'll have to mix in some normal BA or even allies. That's a shame. Though to be honest I'm thinking I might just run it anyway for a laugh. Anyone got any suggestions for 1250pt list? I'm not keen on the 30 man unit idea. More into the idea of smaller units of JP guys and probably a librarian. Though I guess I'll need a stormraven for those damn flyers... Anyway, thanks for the input to date. mavorik Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260080-6th-edition-death-company-army/#findComment-3165687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judaz Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 EDIT - They'd be great fun to play though. And thats all that should matter I agree but the OP was talking about taking them to a tournament. And it should be fun to play a tournament! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260080-6th-edition-death-company-army/#findComment-3165714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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