Death Guard Expedition

[GooseDaMoose]

Hey y'all, just wondering if anyone knows whether it's been established in "official" canon what number the expedition fleet carrying the 1st Company of the Death Guard legion was? And, of course, if so, then what was it? ;)

 

Thanks in advance!

[malika666]

Don't think there is any official on the matter.

[GooseDaMoose]

Ah thank you!

[Cactus]

If there is anything it's likely to be in one of the first three Horus Heresy novels. There's a passage where Horus meets with Angron and Mortarian which might mention which expeditionary fleets were involved. Sorry I can't remember which of the three books it's in!

[Kol Saresk]

It would actually be Flight of the Eisenstein which showcases the Death Guard with something other than a mere mention, but I still do not recall a fleet number being mentioned. The only novel earlier than that is Galaxy in Flames but everything is of the nature "The Death Guard were here during the battle and Mortatarion wore this at the end of the book."

[malika666]

And the earlier books tended to leave us with the impression as if the Legions never really split up that often, as if the expedition fleets they were in contained the entire Legion, rather than fragments of it. Even in The First Heretic it was deemed special that an Ultramarine captain was allowed to lead his own expedition fleet...

[The Colossus]

And the earlier books tended to leave us with the impression as if the Legions never really split up that often, as if the expedition fleets they were in contained the entire Legion, rather than fragments of it. Even in The First Heretic it was deemed special that an Ultramarine captain was allowed to lead his own expedition fleet...

 

Likely due to the change in the Legion size partway through the series- the legions were smaller at the beginning, so it made less sense to split them up, whereas later on they became so large that splitting them up made a lot of sense.

[Jackalos]

And the earlier books tended to leave us with the impression as if the Legions never really split up that often, as if the expedition fleets they were in contained the entire Legion, rather than fragments of it. Even in The First Heretic it was deemed special that an Ultramarine captain was allowed to lead his own expedition fleet...

 

Likely due to the change in the Legion size partway through the series- the legions were smaller at the beginning, so it made less sense to split them up, whereas later on they became so large that splitting them up made a lot of sense.

It also makes sense that the Ultras were first to do so because they were massive

[Captain Tezdal]

In the short story about the Lion in the Primarchs novel aren't Typhon's boys called the Grave Wardens or somesuch?

[Arachnid99]

In the short story about the Lion in the Primarchs novel aren't Typhon's boys called the Grave Wardens or somesuch?

 

 

They are but I suspect that's just a nickname, like how the Imperial Fists 1st Company are also called the Templars.

[malika666]

And the earlier books tended to leave us with the impression as if the Legions never really split up that often, as if the expedition fleets they were in contained the entire Legion, rather than fragments of it. Even in The First Heretic it was deemed special that an Ultramarine captain was allowed to lead his own expedition fleet...

 

Likely due to the change in the Legion size partway through the series- the legions were smaller at the beginning, so it made less sense to split them up, whereas later on they became so large that splitting them up made a lot of sense.

 

Even in their smaller size it made not that much sense to always have all of them together in a single fleet. I mean, at least 2 million worlds were conquered during the Crusade, there were around 5000 expedition fleets. If all the Legions were together, that would mean that there were only 20 of those 5000 fleets that had Astartes in them. Kind of odd...

[The Colossus]

And the earlier books tended to leave us with the impression as if the Legions never really split up that often, as if the expedition fleets they were in contained the entire Legion, rather than fragments of it. Even in The First Heretic it was deemed special that an Ultramarine captain was allowed to lead his own expedition fleet...

 

Likely due to the change in the Legion size partway through the series- the legions were smaller at the beginning, so it made less sense to split them up, whereas later on they became so large that splitting them up made a lot of sense.

 

Even in their smaller size it made not that much sense to always have all of them together in a single fleet. I mean, at least 2 million worlds were conquered during the Crusade, there were around 5000 expedition fleets. If all the Legions were together, that would mean that there were only 20 of those 5000 fleets that had Astartes in them. Kind of odd...

 

Sorry, it was poorly worded, I meant in comparison to now- there's even more reason to split up now.