Pascalnz Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 did I miss it? in the faq it says he is mastery three. in a separate section to the epistolary and regular... weee?:lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
overkongen Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 That's not from the new FAQ. It said the same thing in the V1 FAQ. He still only generates two powers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3169816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pascalnz Posted September 8, 2012 Author Share Posted September 8, 2012 Sorry I don't have my books with me, where does it say he only takes two?. It just seems in the faq that they say basic libbies and epistolary libbies get two but in the BRB you get as many as you have mastery in.i.e. it seems that they are saying even though BA libbies are only mastery level 1 they get two choices, as well as epistolaies which are mastery2. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3169831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
overkongen Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 In the FAQ under "Psychic Powers." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3169867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fury Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Yeah its a contradiction. He is lvl 3. The BGB says that a psyker generates powers equal to its mastery level. Then the BA FAQ states that BA psykers including Mephy can swap out there powers for two new BGB powers instead. Since Codex (or FAQ) trumps BGB, Mephy only gets two powers from the BGB but has 3 warp charge to use every turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3169966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
overkongen Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Yeah its a contradiction. He is lvl 3. The BGB says that a psyker generates powers equal to its mastery level. No, it says: "Unless otherwise stated, a Psyker knows a number of psychic powers equal to its Mastery Level." Since the BA FAQ says otherwise there is no contradiction. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3170022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djulius Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 So what you are saying is: By default Mephiston is Mastery 3 and knows 3 codex powers. He may swap 3 of those for only 2 codex powers, despite having 3 warp charges a turn (!?) BA FAQ: A Blood Angels Librarian (including Mephiston) may use the psychic disciplines found in the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook, instead of those in Codex: Blood Angels. If he does so, generate two new powers from the Biomancy, Divination, Telepathy or Telekinesis disciplines (in any combination) before armies are deployed. He can't keep one from codex and replace two! BRB FAQ: Can psychic powers be mixed and matched from the psychic disciplines and those found in the Codexes? (p418) A: No. You may select from the psychic powers listed in the Codex as normal or swap them for a number of rolls on the psychic disciplines tables. What you need to bear in mind is that this means that Mephiston, even if he only knows two powers, can fire off both a warpcharge (WC) 1 AND a WC 2 spell in single round. However, given that you can't "manifest the same psychic power more than once each turn" (p67) and there aren't many WC2 powers in the first place (1 in Telekinesis, 2 in Telepathy that he can use) I reckon this is a bad FAQ clarification on Mephiston which needs to be challenged; I expect the next FAQ to clarify he can roll 3 powers but until then we'll probably have to accept any opponent insisting we only get two! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3170115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 The 3rd warp charge goes to the force sword? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3170179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushtarador Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I'm pretty sure they just forgot to correct the mistake in the first FAQ, but o well :/ I'd play him as having 3 powers (and allow my opponents to do the same), else where is the point of being mastery lvl 3. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3170317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Weasel Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I'm pretty sure they just forgot to correct the mistake in the first FAQ, but o well :/ I'd play him as having 3 powers (and allow my opponents to do the same), else where is the point of being mastery lvl 3. If your opponent isn't a BA, or is and doesn't take mephy, they might actualy ask you to follow the rules as to what the faq says. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3170320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 3 chances to roll up Iron Arm would be nice Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3170346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixestohit Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Don't some powers take 2 charges to activate and maybe that's why? James. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3170360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushtarador Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I'm pretty sure they just forgot to correct the mistake in the first FAQ, but o well :/ I'd play him as having 3 powers (and allow my opponents to do the same), else where is the point of being mastery lvl 3. If your opponent isn't a BA, or is and doesn't take mephy, they might actualy ask you to follow the rules as to what the faq says. Well, since Mephiston is mastery lvl 3, they'll have to know the BA-FAQ pretty well to spot that bracket comment about him only having 2 powers :( (which makes absolutely no sense) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3170368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 So you are advocating cheating then... Your opponent allowing you 3 powers is one thing, you taking 3 because your opponent doesn't know the rule is cheating. You wouldn't want to do that within my earshot, sonny-jim. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3170375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Weasel Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I'm pretty sure they just forgot to correct the mistake in the first FAQ, but o well :/ I'd play him as having 3 powers (and allow my opponents to do the same), else where is the point of being mastery lvl 3. If your opponent isn't a BA, or is and doesn't take mephy, they might actualy ask you to follow the rules as to what the faq says. Well, since Mephiston is mastery lvl 3, they'll have to know the BA-FAQ pretty well to spot that bracket comment about him only having 2 powers :sweat: (which makes absolutely no sense) why not just... i dunno... play within the rules as opposed to blatantly cheating... you know, be like... a good sport? Just a suggestion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3170409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I believe Mephiston should get 3 powers. But until they change the FAQ, he only gets 2 if you swap. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3170411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Weasel Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I believe Mephiston should get 3 powers. But until they change the FAQ, he only gets 2 if you swap. Indeed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3170425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
overkongen Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I totally agree. I also think he should have three powers. But the rulebook and FAQ are crystal clear. He can only take two powers from the rulebook. This isn't a unique case either. Eldrad knows five codex powers but can only take four rulebook powers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3170522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushtarador Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I totally agree. I also think he should have three powers. But the rulebook and FAQ are crystal clear. He can only take two powers from the rulebook. This isn't a unique case either. Eldrad knows five codex powers but can only take four rulebook powers. Actually, according to the rulebook he should get three powers, as per the new FAQ he definitely is mastery level 3. It's just that they also somehow included him with the rest of our librarians which of course only get to know two powers. Of course I won't cheat and I'll play him with 2 powers, I just got quite upset to have a 250pts uber-psyker (according to fluff) who then still isn't better at casting than your standard guy :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3170532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Also, Njal - 6 Codex powers or 2 BRB powers, PML2. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3170545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smendrik Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Would 3 BRB Powers REALLY be that overpowerd? o0 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3170550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Weasel Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Would 3 BRB Powers REALLY be that overpowerd? o0 Interesting... "that overpowered" implies overpowered at all, in which case 2 is just fine:) but the faq clearly states he gets 2, so, he gets 2... nothing else matters about it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3170581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonMajick Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Everytime I swap out the codex powers for two rolls out of the BRB I am disappointed. Just stick with the codex powers and be a happy BA player. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3172300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 3 rolls on Biomancy would be pretty horrific Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3172467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 The 3rd warp charge goes to the force sword? This! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260503-mephiston-has-3-brb-powers-now/#findComment-3172533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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