Brother Noah Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 The rulebook FAQ adds "Very Bulky" to bikes and jet bikes. As far as I can see, this appears to be for transport purposes? Now I am not saying that I have a desire to, but could I technically attach a Sanguinary priest on a bike to a seven man tactical squad in a drop pod? This is simply innocent curiosity and I have no real interest or concern in doing so, I just wanted to figure out the purpose for adding that special rule. And who knows, maybe understanding it shall come in handy someday! Feedback much appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260772-very-bulky/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthanor Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 The rulebook states that transports are restricted to infantry (does not include jump/jet infantry) unless specifically stated in a vehicles special rule. The fact that bikes have a defined transport capacity does not change anything to that, in the same way as knowing that assault marines take 2 spots (they are defined as being bulky in the rulebook) does not make people put 5 of them in rhinos. What this does, however, is open the door wide open for a book with a transport for bikes, like the storm raven can transport jump infantry. Upcoming DA ravenwing transport maybe? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260772-very-bulky/#findComment-3173067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 The rulebook states that transports are restricted to infantry (does not include jump/jet infantry) unless specifically stated in a vehicles special rule. The fact that bikes have a defined transport capacity does not change anything to that, in the same way as knowing that assault marines take 2 spots (they are defined as being bulky in the rulebook) does not make people put 5 of them in rhinos. What this does, however, is open the door wipe open for a book with a transport for bikes, like the storm raven can transport jump infantry. Upcoming DA ravenwing transport maybe? Bike Transport sounds even dumber than Flying Land Raider did. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260772-very-bulky/#findComment-3173094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Noah Posted September 11, 2012 Author Share Posted September 11, 2012 Thanks! I knew I was probably missing something, and I also kind of figured that the addition of this rule was possibly for upcoming codices. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260772-very-bulky/#findComment-3173095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Ka'sel Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 The rulebook states that transports are restricted to infantry (does not include jump/jet infantry) unless specifically stated in a vehicles special rule. The fact that bikes have a defined transport capacity does not change anything to that, in the same way as knowing that assault marines take 2 spots (they are defined as being bulky in the rulebook) does not make people put 5 of them in rhinos. What this does, however, is open the door wipe open for a book with a transport for bikes, like the storm raven can transport jump infantry. Upcoming DA ravenwing transport maybe? Bike Transport sounds even dumber than Flying Land Raider did. Slightly aggressive response there, and lets be honest. No more silly than genetically engineered super soldiers with hi-tech armour and other goodies, yet decide to ride around on wolves and chop at things with axes. My point being that this is by far more plausable than some of the things that actually exist in game already. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260772-very-bulky/#findComment-3173103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 If I had to guess, bikes in transports sounds like something we may see from a Forge World Book. Or who knows, some new Ravenwing thing when DA get updated? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260772-very-bulky/#findComment-3173108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Dark Angles seems highly probable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260772-very-bulky/#findComment-3173127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Thunderhawk isn't infantry only IIRC. so could put bikes in that possibly (10 of em in fact) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260772-very-bulky/#findComment-3173144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Bike Transport sounds even dumber than Flying Land Raider did. There's no flying landraider, only airdropped ones. I'm curious how you think the bikes would get planetside without a transport. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260772-very-bulky/#findComment-3173219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicJ Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Can't space Brian already drop pod termies? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260772-very-bulky/#findComment-3173229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonet40k Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Super Heavy transports can carry non-infantry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260772-very-bulky/#findComment-3173261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordenkenain Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Bike Transport sounds even dumber than Flying Land Raider did. trust me, it get's dumber still when you actually have one in your codex, the necron night scythe can transport tomb blades... derp Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260772-very-bulky/#findComment-3173274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteriousmaskedmystery Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 thunderhawks should carry bikes, they do in all the fluff, since like 3rd edition, where it stated that bikes couldn't use the special drop pod assault rules, because they would be dropped in thunderhawks as part of the exploitation wave. or however they phrased it back then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260772-very-bulky/#findComment-3173502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Willy Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 If the explaination is plausible then carrying bikes is all good. Night Scythe is a flying teleporter, It makes sense that whole wings of Night Scythes would be dedicated as Carrier Groups. Marines a bound to have some form of fast attack transport for dropping bikes and land speeders in large numbers very quickly, probably a modified thunderhawk, hell the Caestus would make an amazing transport for bikes in urban environments, smash through a wall and unload a squad of Chopper riding marines, it would save on gas for the bikes bringing them in fresh, far faster then expecting them to ride across whole cities and most important for the marines, a powerful shock weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260772-very-bulky/#findComment-3173522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklighter Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 As I read this topic all I could imagine was a bike squad deploying out of an assault ram in to a space hulk with loud metal music playing as they started to rampage through the corridors tearing up the xenos scum infesting it's halls. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260772-very-bulky/#findComment-3173918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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