irwit Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Hi all, Quick query, is this combo allowed and on which terminators? You cant seem to do it for blood angels but can on dark angels? Also is it any good? Im assuming you can move and fire with all "versions" of cyclone missile launcher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain sox Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Only Dark Angels Deathwing Terminators can have this load-out, to my knowledge. I'm pretty sure they can move and fire, IIRC, Relentless implies the model can move but can act as if it were stationary? Unless of course I am wrong. Hope this helps. Come, join us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roninmodern Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Yes, this is an acceptable and even normal combo on Dark Angels terminators, and yes you can move and fire your missiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwit Posted September 12, 2012 Author Share Posted September 12, 2012 So you are basically having your cake and eating it, awesome combat with a couple of krak missiles every round, awesome ;) I'm thinking some allied deathwing may be in order. Looked at Space wolf but they are seriously expensive in comparison! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olgerth Istaarn Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Space Wolves can do it too. It is called - point sink. One wound model even with 2up/3invul may be harder to kill, but not that much harder. Never overtool or get attached to one wound models. Their strength is in numbers, not their tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 I think you are over analyzing this. The squad is going to take a heavy weapon, CML can go anywhere and unlike assault/auto-cannon you don't have to give up close combat weapons to take it. You can put it on a TH/SS model or put it on a TLC model but since the Stormshield has a better save it is a no brainer about where to put it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olgerth Istaarn Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Simple math is not overanalyzing. Lose one model and lose X points of wargear is worse than losing one model and losing Y points of wargear if X>Y. Also, losing one model and losing two special weapons is worse than losing one model and losing one special weapon. Sure, if I'm running Wolves and am insane enough to buy a whole squad of TH/SS, I might as well plop the cyclone on top of one/two of them. Let's also hope I'm playing Apocalypse. In "normal" games terminator squads are thin and every model is precious... no need to make them even more precious... plus, in the 6th, given the wound allocation rules, you'll want the shield guy leading from the front so he can eat as much fire as he possibly can before drowning in the inevitable bucket of dice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Simple math is not overanalyzing. Lose one model and lose X points of wargear is worse than losing one model and losing Y points of wargear if X>Y. Also, losing one model and losing two special weapons is worse than losing one model and losing one special weapon. Sure, if I'm running Wolves and am insane enough to buy a whole squad of TH/SS, I might as well plop the cyclone on top of one/two of them. Let's also hope I'm playing Apocalypse. In "normal" games terminator squads are thin and every model is precious... no need to make them even more precious... plus, in the 6th, given the wound allocation rules, you'll want the shield guy leading from the front so he can eat as much fire as he possibly can before drowning in the inevitable bucket of dice. So are you talking strictly about SW? Because with DW it is a no brainer to take a CML as you aren't paying anything extra for the TH/SS(or the LC's for that matter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 once again, NM. I'm trying to not be a ;): any more .... maybe next week I will try to be a :cuss: less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwit Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 Cheers for all the advice everyone. I think if I was gong to take termies I would ally some death wing ones in. Much cheaper and more value and more effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhg033 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 just dont put it on the sergent model! it'd be too easy to single him out in combat. also - if you are taking deathwing allies you'll be taking belial, to make the deathwing a troops choice, who can be armed with claws or th/ss (or the never used storm bolter/sword combo). i'd sugget using the sergeant to tank for challenges with th/ss and belial having claws to be able to use his i5 to the best advantage. if you have the points spare you can upgrade one deathwing squad with an apothecary for some feel no pain goodness too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwit Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 Ai that's awesome, also I see you can get the chapter banner for +1A. So that's a pretty killer unit then for a fairly reasonable price, so tempted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksad Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I was under the impression that named characters could not be taken as allies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 There is nothing stopping you from taking named characters as allies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwit Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 DeathNippleWing, hmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhg033 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 DeathNippleWing sounds a bit slaanesh to me ..... going back to my post about the sergeant - the only advantage to it being on this guy is that he should have a look out sir save vs ranged weapony so he' a little bit more resilient vs precision shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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