Remtek Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I don't think 145 pts is that big an investment at 1750. If it takes all the fire first turn then the rest of your army isn't getting shot and if it gets to fire it's gonna do some damage. I took two to a doubles tournament last weekend one BA one SW and they more than made the points cost back over the course of the weekend. You kinda need 3 or atleast 2 if you want to run vindicators. 1 will die or get one shot off and then die in round 1. Flyers are becoming more and more popular aswell. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260914-vindicator-vs-new-meta/page/2/#findComment-3175824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rottimus Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I regularly play BA with 3 vindicators with good results... fun results too! :tu: I run 3 with a mech heavy list... I find that they are super scary to opponents, who pile fire into them. Even if they don't do anything it means they've absorbed fire. I usually nail a tank or two with them... The rest of my army is simply tacticals in rhinos... People seem to think they are 'meh' and tend to ignore them. I have faith though.. 40 marines piling into your lines can hurt... That being said, I don't play tournaments, only pick up games and friendly games... I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260914-vindicator-vs-new-meta/page/2/#findComment-3175835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 The more I think about it, the more I come to realise that the randomness of the scatter is what really kills it for me. Some of our other HS choices might not have as much damage potential, but they are far less unpredictible in their effectiveness. ^this for me. cover on top of that makes for pain. Id rather lay down 10 shots from a baal and leave the rest to weight of dice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260914-vindicator-vs-new-meta/page/2/#findComment-3176134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 The more I think about it, the more I come to realise that the randomness of the scatter is what really kills it for me. Some of our other HS choices might not have as much damage potential, but they are far less unpredictible in their effectiveness. ^this for me. cover on top of that makes for pain. Id rather lay down 10 shots from a baal and leave the rest to weight of dice. There is nothing that prevents you from doing both. In all honesty I like to field 3 of them, they are a mayor target, sometimes they are not worth all the effort, but vs marines, tyranids, orks and guard they are quite good imho. In short, if you want to field them, do it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260914-vindicator-vs-new-meta/page/2/#findComment-3176679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kem Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 If you want to field anything, you will =). Plain and simple. Some ppl just can't stand the 10-2 pieplate =). Like: "O-HO-HO, I gonna hammer the hole in the table with that OSSOM KABOOM!" :) Is a vindi so good, that you want to field them en'masse? IMHO not so.. Baal is more flexible unit for the same cost. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260914-vindicator-vs-new-meta/page/2/#findComment-3176760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 I've been running 2 Vindicators since 6th came out, and they have been doing awesome for me. The scatter isn't a big deal and they absolutely trash opposing infantry which most people seem to be running in this edition. Of course they take out opposing vehicles much easier now since you get full Strength if the template touches at all. I don't think I'll ever not take at least 1 of them, but 2 seems to be the sweet spot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260914-vindicator-vs-new-meta/page/2/#findComment-3177033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Legionnare Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 If you want to field anything, you will =). Plain and simple. Some ppl just can't stand the 10-2 pieplate =). Like: "O-HO-HO, I gonna hammer the hole in the table with that OSSOM KABOOM!" :lol: Is a vindi so good, that you want to field them en'masse? IMHO not so.. Baal is more flexible unit for the same cost. Remember, it's S10, AP1!!! It's a vehicle slaughtering machine, especially truks, raiders, etc, etc... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260914-vindicator-vs-new-meta/page/2/#findComment-3182152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Conclusion: Thake the Vindicator if you want it, be prepared to lose it in battle but at least able to destroy his weight in points. I still love them 3x in my list because it compliments siege armies, fluffwise to. Cheers, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260914-vindicator-vs-new-meta/page/2/#findComment-3182163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartali Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 The more I think about it, the more I come to realise that the randomness of the scatter is what really kills it for me. Some of our other HS choices might not have as much damage potential, but they are far less unpredictible in their effectiveness. ^this for me. cover on top of that makes for pain. Id rather lay down 10 shots from a baal and leave the rest to weight of dice. ^^^ Don't forget the ability to twin-link Preds/Baals/Vindies via Prescience Baals and Vindies are better against different things - Baals against light/medium infantry, Vindies heavy infantry (especially multi wound models like Paladins, Nobs, TWC etc) and vehicles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260914-vindicator-vs-new-meta/page/2/#findComment-3182170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Remember, it's S10, AP1!!! Its AP 2, actually. Still good, but Ap1 would make it great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/260914-vindicator-vs-new-meta/page/2/#findComment-3182394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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