Gideon999 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Hey Everyone, A good friend and I were playing a game yesterday, 2000pts of my marines vs his orks. He had a warphead leading a mob of 30 shoota boyz and a warboss, and got the 'ere we go power allowing him to deepstrke the unit close to my whirlwind. Well, that had the happy side effect of puttin them in deepstrike formation right near my whirlwind. :-) After that pie plate o doom followed by shooting from a long fang squad and a grey hunter squad that mob broke and ran with 3 boys and the warphead left. So here is the odd part. Since they are below 25% strength they need insane heroism to rally (double 1's). BUT, the warphead still rolls on his psychic table every turn as well. What happened is he rolled the deep strike power again, and mishapped gaining a "delayed" result. So when the unit then comes out of ongoing reserves the next turn, does it rally or continue to retreat? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261238-odd-situation-came-up-with-a-weirdboy/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Nothing about re-deepstriking causes them to automatically rally, so I believe they continue to retreat. Which is both awesome and hilarious. :yes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261238-odd-situation-came-up-with-a-weirdboy/#findComment-3178075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Remember, as long as a character is joined to a fleeing unit, you can use the Ld of the character, not just snake eyes when below 25%. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261238-odd-situation-came-up-with-a-weirdboy/#findComment-3178095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurth Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Also, this is a four-model mob of orks, so for morale purposes, they would have Leadership 4 if there were no character present (unless this got changed in the newest edition, which I haven't actually played yet <_<). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261238-odd-situation-came-up-with-a-weirdboy/#findComment-3178182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysere Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Also, this is a four-model mob of orks, so for morale purposes, they would have Leadership 4 if there were no character present (unless this got changed in the newest edition, which I haven't actually played yet <_<). Orks can choose to use the mob for leadership I thought, so they may use their base Ld otherwise. Either way they had a character attached so they would have used his Ld. Also they would just keep falling back. Had this come up in a game in 5e with a special rule we had, rather funny situation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261238-odd-situation-came-up-with-a-weirdboy/#findComment-3178197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon999 Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share Posted September 17, 2012 Well it was funny! We were laughing about it at the time, and since the game was pretty much ov er at that point it wasnt a game changing rule lookup or anything. Can anyone direct me to a page reference that shows the bit where they can use the IC's leadership to rally when below 25% strength? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261238-odd-situation-came-up-with-a-weirdboy/#findComment-3178221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 It's either in the Morale section or the Independent Character section. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261238-odd-situation-came-up-with-a-weirdboy/#findComment-3178222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Orks can use the number of models in the mob as their leadership if they wish, or use the Ld stat on their profile. Or if joined by a character, can use his Ld stat. Usually, that ends up with them being Ld 8. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261238-odd-situation-came-up-with-a-weirdboy/#findComment-3178300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeattleDV8 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 BRB page 39 Heroic Morale Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261238-odd-situation-came-up-with-a-weirdboy/#findComment-3178324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurth Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Orks can choose to use the mob for leadership I thought, so they may use their base Ld otherwise. I didn't phrase it quite the way I intended to put it :blush: What I meant was: in this case, their base Ld (before modifiers) cannot be lower than 4 — which is probably better odds than having to roll a 2 to succeed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261238-odd-situation-came-up-with-a-weirdboy/#findComment-3178737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlakir Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Being bellow 25% doesn't lower your Leadership... it just mean that the test can only be passed with a double 1 (unless joined by an IC or if you get charged). The Mob Rule doesn't change this, as it's always a double 1 to pass if bellow 25%. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/261238-odd-situation-came-up-with-a-weirdboy/#findComment-3178792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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