tomsev Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 well everything is in the title is azrael worth his points or are there better choices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I don't know anyone who takes him. For me, the problem is that you need a real beatstick of a squad to justify Azzy's points cost...like a full squad of power-sword veterans...with apothecary and banna wava. The problem is that the standard bearer and medic are command squad options, and command squads cap out at five models...so no dice there...but it really would take a full squad with five (2 base, AHW, banner) power weapon attacks on the charge to justify the points that it costs to get the squad that 4+ invulnerable save...and you'd probably want a diviner in there, too, to give them rerolls...and a crusader for them to ride around in...what's that, a thousand points for one unit that isn't even legal... The short answer is that azzy is too expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I'd say March10k is more or less correct. But if you don't mind paying the price, he can be useable. Reminds me of Seahawk's recent thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Personally, I think he is a great option, however, his points makes him a but hard to justify in anything under about 1500. I love the idea of taking him with 10 Vets with PW in a Land Raider Crusader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 He is good if you plan to run him with veterans. The invulnerable save mitigates (somewhat) the need for stormshields but you need a LR to make them effective assault units. So... Get the pay check ready because the cost is going to be humongous. It has worked many times, but its really hit or miss. They must reach the enemy line and if they dont.... Half the army is gone. Too many eggs in one basket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoJack Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 The problem with that tactic is you just spent 800+ points on a unit that isn't even scoring. At least other similarly priced deathstars can score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kewl Imp Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Since I'm not that competetive, I tend to use it because I didn't have many other options for HQ. I still will be using him because I only have one Land Raider and thats it. I attach him to a command or vet squad and get him in close. Master Crafted weapons and the Lion Helm alone make him worth it for me. Once I begin to get more armor, it will probably change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I used him once with Deathwing. He is expensive but he can go with a shooty squad of DW without missing out on too much without the Storm Shields. He's capable (for his points) in melee and his combi-plasma can add diversity to the squad. Belial (who is very cheap) makes the unit scoring so you don't have to worry about him supporting a non-scoring unit. Aside from that, I've seen him taken once supporting a Devastator squad (giving them a what is effectively cover and supporting with his gun) but a Librarian with Divination is probably a better use of points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vazzy Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I used the combo in apoc, where points didn't matter, (especially considering I fielded a full company), they were effective but, they spent most of the time holding a rear position against crons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypher 102 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 If you're doing apocalypse then put him in a masters of the chapter formation with a land raider. How's that for expensive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skink Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I've long been troubled by the number of boots on the ground I (don't) have with my Deathwing, so at higher points have been toying with the idea of an allied IG blob. Pretty sure I could stick Az in with them so 56 models benefit from the 4++, mitigating his cost slightly. It does means points spent on 3 HQ choices unfortunately. However, I'm not sure how board appropriate this comment is, so won't take it further. + Edited out phone malfunction... + Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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