Wolf load out help/ saga of the twilight

[rangemaster]

can someone help me arrange this into a good 1500 pnt list? also a 700 pnts?

 

this is NOT an army list, just models i have that i try in various combos:

krom dragongaze, termi, beastslyr, TH 165

4 wolf guard, term, ac, wc x3, x2 cf, mow 193

2 wolf priests, one jump pack for skyclaws, one for blood claws without pack, beastslyr, warriorborn 270

2 rune priests, plasma pistol beastslyr 225

5 term wolfguard (when i throw in logan) hf, x2 Wc, x2 pf, 3 diff combi 148

above mentioned logan (taken for fun games) 275

4 wolf guard pack leaders (3 gh, 1 bc) x3 pw, pf 98

1 ven dread ac, twin hf 165

5 wolf scouts heavy bolter, meltabombs x5 45

2 lone wolves, 1 term w/ th and ss, one ss and plasma pistol in power armor 130

10 grey hunters melta, standard, mow, pw 195

10 gh melta, pf, mow 195

10 gh plasma gun, plasma pistol mow 190

13 blood claws 195

land speeder multimelta and heavy flamer 70

9 skyclaws (lead by wolf priest) melta pf 69

thunderwolf cavalry (1 so far will get 3 more soon) ss wc 100

3 swift claws pw 90

4 long fangs, 1 leader, x2 hb, 1 mm 95

5 long fangs, leader, x2 missile launcher, lascannon, plasma cannon 140

whirlwind hunter killer missile 95

predator twin las, side las 165

land raider twin linked side las, heavy bolter, hunterkiller 260

rhino that i don't use much.

 

total 3,408

 

i like my long fangs as anyone should but i might convert the plasma and melta into missiles or lascannons. thoughts on this?

i like my whirlwind and pred best as i just park them in the back field and attack things as they come into range.

the skyclaws proved pretty decent for me (but i want blood angels to do it better)

i haven't used swiftclaws much but the thunderwolf has made it very clear to me why people are so fond of it. will be getting more soon.

the blood claws are ok if they hide in cover in the front lines as opponent advances and spends too much time trying to shoot them down. for some reason they survived everything with only a loss of 2 claws... (but i don't really want to use them that much unless high points game)

grey hunters are awesome with boltguns, bolt pistols and ccw. i played as a friend's vanilla marines and was very sad they weren't as good. :.(

the land raider i got cheap on ebay and was planning to put termi wolf guard in. as i have not seen 6th ed rules quite yet and heard that tanks got kinda shafted (or buffed depending on opinion) i'm a bit worried about cost effectiveness. but then again i run lascannons on almost everything... can never be too careful.

i love termis just because i'm a sadistic bastard.

i've yet to figure out exact strategies for scouts as right now they just draw fire for a turn.

the dred is ok but i mainly got it to paint it. it's too slow to get into most fights it feels like. (with blood angels i'm thinking death company plus dreadnought on storm raven= can of whoopass, not scared to use storm raven because i hear flyers are must haves and to drop a dred into cc without drop pod is awesome)

the wolf priests are ok mainly they are just extra attacks to be used against opponents.

krom is a bamf model, but i don't really get him into fights much (is it possible for storm raven to drop him and termis on enemy or is it just angels that can use it?)

 

so i'm stoked for allies because i've wanted to get my hands on a storm raven, better jump packers and a death company+ dread.

 

 

 

thanks in advance

[rangemaster]

ok can someone give me tips on just kitting out 700 pts with wolves and 1500 with wolves and ba?

[rangemaster]

maybe i'll post an actual list and critique me from there?

at 1500 i run:

 

rune priest with lighting and jaws (how else)

wolf priest with jump pack and beast slayer

skyclaws led by him

wolf guard to lead 3 gh units

lone wolf in termi armor th ss

thunderwolf

all three grey hunters

both long fangs

whirlwind

 

thats about 1459 points, how does it look? i can whittle down a grey hunter squad and mount it in a rhino but not so keen on it... playing a game on thursday so looking for good set up now. at 700 points i haven't played a list yet but my friends and i have a house tourney so want to field a good army.

 

1 rune priest

1 wolf guard

1 grey hunters

1 land speeder

1 thunderwolf

1 long fangs las,plas, missile team

 

668 points.

 

how would this do? i usually play against ork and tau and tyranids but they may try to go DA or Chaos with the new dark ven plus extra units. the tyranids are swarm, the tau are mainly suits and orks have koptas and one wagon, i'm guessing.