Nistro Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 hi there well today a little gift my wife bought me arrived 2 squads of the new deathwing terminators which leaves me requiring another 30 to have the core of the 1st comapny, now atm i have 6 land raiders sitting to be built and painted which i am using as the 1st companies transport into battle. what im wondering is how many chaplains and Librarians and if any techmarines are attached to the first company at any given time just so i can get it done right. i already have belial built and his command squad consisting of apothacary and standard barer and last 3 members of the squad, do these guys also count towards the 100 or are they considered belials own escort as such. cheers Nistro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 New DW TErmies? Are you refering to the DV minis? If so :D There is no permanent attachement of Librarians, Techmarines or Chaplains in the DW. They join a given force on an ad hoc basis. So it's up to you! Oh, and the command squad? grey area... If the battle companies are anything to go by, the command squad comes on top of the standard 100. Good luck with your (ambitious) project! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nistro Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 yeah meant the new DV mini's 1 squad is just about to go under the knife the idea of having two squads the EXACT same would simply drive me mad so they need ot be different but clear they are from the same squad lol. thats good news on the techmaines and such im thinking then i will do 2 chaplains and Librarians just the idea of the techmarines in the 1st company annoy me as the whole idea that the mechanicum have agents as such in the 1st don't sit right with me, i remember reading some time ago that techmarines of the DA's are not aloud to join the inner ranks because of there close connection with the mechanicum so if im wrong in remembering this please correct me :D. command company is almost upsetting that's another 5 terminators ive to paint lol. well i only need another 30 and 4 more land raiders so i aint that far off my goal :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 i remember reading some time ago that techmarines of the DA's are not aloud to join the inner ranks because of there close connection with the mechanicum so if im wrong in remembering this please correct me :) You are right. However this created some other fluff problems so they allowed the Master of the Forge to be Inner Circle... A solution that creates as many problems as it solves imo... :rolleyes: Regardless, look forward to see your minis painted! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypher 102 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I imagine that the Deathwing have their own chaplain just like all the other companies. As for the Master of the Forge, well somebody has to fix all of the torture devices and those big old vault doors in the Rock's basement don't oil themselves! I'm sure that a techmarine's true loyalties would be clear before they are considered for the topmost position of their order and by that time they will have spent waaay more time with the chapter than they ever did on Mars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I imagine that the Deathwing have their own chaplain just like all the other companies. You'd think, but the Chapter org chart in the codex says otherwise. Ravenwing and all other companies have company Chaplains noted, DW do not have that listed. They are however Inner Circle per se (in the same box on the org chart), so we can assume Int. Chaplains may join them as needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Exactly! It's not just the Organization Chart on p.15 of the Codex but also in the description of each Company on p.14 is explicitly says so: Each Company apart from the Deathwing also includes a Chaplain... So no dedicated Chaplain for the 1st I'm afraid... Weird, but there you have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypher 102 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Wow. Never noticed that before! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nistro Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 I imagine that the Deathwing have their own chaplain just like all the other companies. As for the Master of the Forge, well somebody has to fix all of the torture devices and those big old vault doors in the Rock's basement don't oil themselves! I'm sure that a techmarine's true loyalties would be clear before they are considered for the topmost position of their order and by that time they will have spent waaay more time with the chapter than they ever did on Mars. its not there loyalties that are in question i don't think its just there outside connection to another organisation which is frowned apon by the inner circle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nistro Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 also jsut about to lay out all my terminators alot are unpainted but goignt o lay them all out and get a pic to post jsut to let yous all see what i have :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nistro Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv176/Nistro666/DSC_0027.jpg http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv176/Nistro666/DSC_0026.jpg this is my current work load that im working on atm i have another 6 squads to build and model still in there boxes and 6 land raiders at the rate i paint i might jsut have it all done by this time next year lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Wow an LR model for every DW squad – there's dedication to the cause :). Cheers I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 hi there well today a little gift my wife bought me arrived 2 squads of the new deathwing terminators which leaves me requiring another 30 to have the core of the 1st comapny, now atm i have 6 land raiders sitting to be built and painted which i am using as the 1st companies transport into battle. what im wondering is how many chaplains and Librarians and if any techmarines are attached to the first company at any given time just so i can get it done right. i already have belial built and his command squad consisting of apothacary and standard barer and last 3 members of the squad, do these guys also count towards the 100 or are they considered belials own escort as such. cheers Nistro Part of that answer is none. Techmarines, with their loyalty split between Chapter and Omnissiah are not taken into the Deathwing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kovash Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 This is how I've always looked at it. Interrogator-Chaplains and Librarians won't actually be part of the Deathwing, but those that belong to the Inner Circle will always be included in Deathwing operations when they are needed. Also, these high ranking officers would be spread throughout the other companies, looking for signs of corruption or of the Fallen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 hi there well today a little gift my wife bought me arrived 2 squads of the new deathwing terminators which leaves me requiring another 30 to have the core of the 1st comapny, now atm i have 6 land raiders sitting to be built and painted which i am using as the 1st companies transport into battle. what im wondering is how many chaplains and Librarians and if any techmarines are attached to the first company at any given time just so i can get it done right. i already have belial built and his command squad consisting of apothacary and standard barer and last 3 members of the squad, do these guys also count towards the 100 or are they considered belials own escort as such. cheers Nistro Part of that answer is none. Techmarines, with their loyalty split between Chapter and Omnissiah are not taken into the Deathwing. Apart from the Master of the Forge... Which as I said, causes as many fluff problems as it attempts to solve... :) Anyway you got quite a force going there Nistro, that tank there? I want one too! hahahaha!!! Good luck with your project - will be following this one... :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nistro Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 that tank has taken me an age to get to where it is and i still don't have it finished as i keep finding bits i don't like and changing atm i need 2 attack bike weapon rails to mount the rear assault cannons on as i didn't like the pivots i had them on previously. going to pick up some of the forge world terminators to add in as well so i have varying sets of TDA suits walking around i also require more dread at soe point down the road and a thunderhawk i think (if the wife will let me spend £400 on a model). finished this PH termi last night and im happy with it :P http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv176/Nistro666/Models/DSC_0018.jpg http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv176/Nistro666/Models/DSC_0017.jpg http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv176/Nistro666/Models/DSC_0016.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwing70 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Exactly! It's not just the Organization Chart on p.15 of the Codex but also in the description of each Company on p.14 is explicitly says so: Each Company apart from the Deathwing also includes a Chaplain... So no dedicated Chaplain for the 1st I'm afraid... Weird, but there you have it. Not entirely weird if you think about it. The regular Chaplains attached to the other companies are there to tell them what's right from wrong aswell as guide and lead them into battle. They also don't know about the history. Each Deathwing Marine is in the know about the Chapters past, has been screened thoroughly, has proven himself constantly in battle. They are the first of the first, amongst the best trained if not the best Terminator users the Imperium has to offer and they are on a mission... Basically, they no longer need someone telling them 'good job' :) Nice PH Termi btw, very dark and grim... though technically the sword on the badge wouldn't be broken if he's to represent a PH army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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