Kurgan the Lurker Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Ok so the Chaos Codex is going to hit within days and that has raised the issue of Cultists and how they will be handled on the B&C. First let me state that Cultist as they appear in the Codex will be allowed. Much in the way the old Lost and the Damned were allowed and later the various Inquisitorial human units currently are with the WH and GK codex books. The issue for us -- and the mods are still hammering away at each over this -- is how far do we go with it. You probably know from reading our earlier statement on Allies http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...howtopic=255027 that one option being considered was focusing as an "armies of humanity" forum. This would basically mean any human related army being ok on the site. Marines, SoB, AdMech (used with IG/SM rules most likely), IG (and it's variations -- Tyrant's Legion, Vraks Renegades and so on). Yes we would keep Daemons as we feel they are integral to the Chaos story. So we would like to hear from you all on what you feel the Pros and Cons of such a decision may entail. Please try and be a bit more descriptive than "it would be cool" or "it would suck". We really do want your feedback on this issue to help us come to a decision that is best for the site in the long term. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262357-need-your-feedback/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babel_Triumphant Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I think expanding to human-related armies would be great. The B&C is the best 40k related forum out there and I'd like to see more armies involved. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262357-need-your-feedback/#findComment-3195861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mince on toast Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 With the whole allies thing all sorts of weird and wonderful combos have come about but theres enough forums for the other armies. To remain true to B+C i think all armies here should be Power armour Based. (please dont get technical daemons+cultis+Chaos Marines should be one army) GW has moved the 40K story on... So B+C should adapt.. But never change what made it unique and successful Like having Marines as your core army and with a sprinkle of sumthing else that doesnt change the core idea but adds to it..like icecream with some chocolate sauce :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262357-need-your-feedback/#findComment-3195870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Well Heres how I see it we already have the IG in our midst we are just in denial about it. Between the existing non marine armies already on the board and the growing HH Legion army lists and you already have every tank and aircraft the IG use being used buy at least one of the other armies plus stormtroopers. Add in Allies and you have the whole codex. Why not give them a sub forum? In truth while this does expand the forum I believe it will actually lessen the work load of our staff because they will no longer have to toe that line between how much IG is to much IG. By the time the HH is done we will be and Armies of Humanity board any way, We might as well get out in front of it so that it can be handled in a manner that is both beneficial to the community here and so that it is administered with the quality and decorum we have come to both expect and enjoy. After all the Bolter and Chainsword aren't symbols of just SM, they are symbols of the Imperium. Its time we stop beating around the bush with the IG and to go ahead and fully embrace what is likely to become just as important a part of our SM armies as our Land Raiders and Razorbacks. It will enrich our forum and our discussions as well as expanding our horizons here in ways I don't think all of the Frater have fully considered. We already have Valkyries and Vendettas in the Inquisition armies. The mechanicum uses all the vehicles in the IG list in their armies, remember the Russ Executioner Regiments of the Ryzan Tech Guard? How many GK armies already have a Chimera for their Stormtroopers? Now we see IG artillery tanks in the basic Crusade Legion list. All in all; outside of HQs we already include all but what 4 or 5 units from the IG codex. All current situation is doing is increasing moderating load on the forum an creating a big gray area about what IG/human stuff is permissible and what is not. This atmosphere of confusion will only increase of the years to come as GW continues to blur the line between these armies with alternate lists. The simplest and best solution for this community is to finally and openly include the IG within our ranks. In doing so we will have already laid the ground work for all the other "cultists" unites to come as well as including the very nice FW armies that already have in their full grandeur. As for the Xenos; as much as I would personally like to see discussions of xenos armies held within beneficial confines of this forum I do not think that doing so is practical within the resource limits available at this time. There is also the practical consideration that many members of the Frater are as xenophobic ( at least on the board) as the Imperium they represent. It is clear that a considerable part of our community significantly dislike the atmosphere of xenos heavy forums and this colors there judgment on the contribution such armies would make to our community. Adding the Xenos armies at this time would likely cause internal conflict on this forum that I personally would not welcome. At this time I don't personally see the benefit significantly outweighing the cost. Therefore I can't in good faith support the addition of Xenos at this time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262357-need-your-feedback/#findComment-3196532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I don't see a problem with giving the Guard their own subforum, much like we have the Sisters' board and Daemons boards. That said, I think that'd be enough. No need to do a whole subsection, where you've got a Guard board, and an Elysian board, and a Catachan board, and so on. That is, Guard should be treated just like the other auxiliary forces (Daemons, Sisters, Grey Knights, AdMech): A single, general-purpose board and the OK to talk about them in Tactica Astartes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262357-need-your-feedback/#findComment-3196995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 I don't see a problem with giving the Guard their own subforum, much like we have the Sisters' board and Daemons boards. That said, I think that'd be enough. No need to do a whole subsection, where you've got a Guard board, and an Elysian board, and a Catachan board, and so on. That is, Guard should be treated just like the other auxiliary forces (Daemons, Sisters, Grey Knights, AdMech): A single, general-purpose board and the OK to talk about them in Tactica Astartes. Oh if we add IG it will be a single forum in the Vive Imperium area. No way we would break it up by planet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262357-need-your-feedback/#findComment-3197012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 While I always loved the idea of b&c being a strictly power armour forum (even though I have not been very active the past few months), I feel that by admitting the other armies in will add to the growh of b&c as that is important to the community. But I think the section should be marked as others and encompassing the other armies of non powered bolter and chainsword wielding players. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262357-need-your-feedback/#findComment-3197095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanska Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 What Raven angel said... I've been thinking for some time now that it wouldn't be the end of the world for B&C to become a board for the forces of the imperium(and the renegade side of it). I say give the IG a subboard. But Xenos...Never! As long as I draw breath and can hold my flamer, no aliens scum shall wander the parts of the net. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262357-need-your-feedback/#findComment-3197127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mince on toast Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 i havnt been on for a while but have the "powers that be" decided on whats happening with IG on B&C.. it seems strangely quiet...too quiet... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262357-need-your-feedback/#findComment-3255916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 No final decision has been made. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262357-need-your-feedback/#findComment-3256771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 From a selfish point of view I wouldn't mind being able to discuss my Guard army here too as I've not seen any IG forums I felt like getting involved with. A single Guard section (and army list bit) would be enough and would help those making HH armies as well as make some allies discussion a lot simpler. Either way I don't see the B&C suffering as no decision can be thought of as wrong. Any idea when a decision might be made or is it more of an "organic" discussion? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262357-need-your-feedback/#findComment-3258366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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