WIP DIY White Scars Successor Chapter

[Julgolax]

I'm going to pre-build the backround for this chapter so when I finally get around to constructing it, I'll have everything worked out and ready to go. The idea behind this chapter is my take on a successor chapter of the White Scars featuring barbaric features and similar chapter traditions thrown into the blender with a warrior cult theme and a dash of brutal tactics thrown in to sweeten the deal.

So far, this is what I've got.

Chapter Name: Brotherhood of Scars (or Scarred Brotherhood)

Founding: 24th

Primogenitor: Jagatai Khan

Home Planet: Velladon Prime

Fortress-monastery: Vella Toria

Chapter Master: Lonan Kaje (pronounced Cage)

Heraldry: Dark Red armor, metallic iron aquila

Insignia: red and iron recolor of White Scars chapter icon ( current red = iron, current gold = red)

Chapter Strength: 6 Brotherhoods and growing

Specialty: Rapid Assault and Total War tactics

Battle Cry: Commanding Officer: "The Emperor watches us!" Reply: "Show him victory!"

Q&C are appreciated on colors, symbol, name, and help with developing backround would be appreciated as well, so long as it's kept within the parameters of what I have developed so far.

[Paulochromis]

Which company[=brotherhood]/squad marking scheme are you going with?

Whenever I see paint schemes, they're always done with the poster's preferred colour for should pad trims and chest aquilas.

But many(most) codex-adherent chapters vary these on a company basis.

Will you use numbering/colours (or even scar-like marks) on kneepads/gleaves/shoulders to indicate squads?

[Julgolax]

Which company[=brotherhood]/squad marking scheme are you going with?

Whenever I see paint schemes, they're always done with the poster's preferred colour for should pad trims and chest aquilas.

But many(most) codex-adherent chapters vary these on a company basis.

Will you use numbering/colours (or even scar-like marks) on kneepads/gleaves/shoulders to indicate squads?

 

I hadn't really thought about it at the time but I do know I do not want to go with the terribly clashing shoulder pad trim. I was thinking about using the right shin-guard and right knee pad for squad and brotherhood markings respectively (similar to the dark angels). But I was also considering using similar methods to the White Scars including a variation of their zig-zag markings or maybe a simple rip design to symbolize the "scar" theme, I'm just not sure how they will be designed or look.

[Julgolax]

Any other bits of advice or corrections?

[Lord Levarius]

Hi there,

 

Have you thought about why/how the chapter was formed? Does it have some purpose for it's existence or was it formed through a large loss of brothers etc?

 

Having a think about why the colour scheme is the way it is can also help you think of more background story. For example my custom chapter, The Firebirds, had to limp to a volcanic world after a catastrophic war and had to change their armour colours to blend in with their surroundings (Raven Guard Successors...) Ideas like these can really help build a good thematic story :)

[Julgolax]

I don't really have much of an origin story behind them, do chapters need a reason to exist? I always thought that chapters were created slowly after the division of the Legions and wherever they were created it was because conditions were right or it was necessary for them to exist.

[Lord Levarius]

Chapters are normally created by the High Lords of Terra for a specific reason, i.e to counter a xenos threat or permanently monitor a sector or something. They don't normally just appear as it takes a lot of resources to create a new chapter (form an existing one/gene-seed) . So thinking about their purpose can be great way of building up their story...

 

For example you can say that they were created from the White Scars in order to counter a specific Ork invasion or something like that. Could be a good idea.

If you play games with 40k, you could always incorporate the armies you regularly play against.

 

Having said this, you don't necessarily have to come up with a story, it just makes them seem more 'real' (only my opinion of course :D )

[Ecritter]

Can't really be made to counter an Ork WAAAGH!!! since it takes over 50 years to create a Chapter ... but you have the right idea.

[Lord Levarius]

Yeah you're right there :tu: But you could say they were created to claim the worlds back again after the invasion, or something similar :teehee:

[Julgolax]

Well you missed the point of my question. Didn't successor chapters get created because of the breakdown of the legions into 1000-man chapters? That's sort of what I was originally going for, a White Scars Successor Chapter created during a later founding out of the remnants of the Legion. Am I confusing the timeline here? Are the later founding's one right after the other or are they spread out? I don't really understand the time scale of WH40K as Lexicanum presents it.

[Messor]

I believe only the second founding dealt with breaking up the legions. After that they were reduced to chapter strength. The other foundings have been thousands of years apart, and each time involve recruiting and implanting new marines. The loyalist legions haven't been around for many thousands of years.

[Kristoff]

Can't really be made to counter an Ork WAAAGH!!! since it takes over 50 years to create a Chapter ... but you have the right idea.

Maybe not a specific WAAAGH!!!, but if there's a subsector that's become a WAAAGH!!! super-highway, a Chapter may be created as a stopper. White Scars would be good as fast hunters.

 

I believe only the second founding dealt with breaking up the legions. After that they were reduced to chapter strength. The other foundings have been thousands of years apart, and each time involve recruiting and implanting new marines. The loyalist legions haven't been around for many thousands of years.

The Second Founding was to break up the Legions in to Chapters.

 

But as for the Legions, well.... Space Wolves were split in 2, but then their 2nd (Wolf Brothers) didn't really turn out that well, and the Space Wolves just kept running as normal. Not officially a Legion, but they still operate like one.

 

Also, Azrael of the Dark Angels, Calgar of the Ultramarines, and Dante of the Blood Angels can call on the full strength of their successor chapters at time of need to basically restore the Legion in force level, if not in name.

[Lord Levarius]

Maybe not a specific WAAAGH!!!, but if there's a subsector that's become a WAAAGH!!! super-highway, a Chapter may be created as a stopper. White Scars would be good as fast hunters.

 

Exactly my Point..... :(

[Jacobius]

I Like the colour scheme. :P

 

Some questions that might help you expand your ideas a little...

 

Why do they engage in total war? Is it because of the ideas of an individual chapter master/member of the founding cadre? Is it because this suits the style of warfare that their recruits engage in on their home world? Is it because of some event early in their history?

 

As your chapter is 24th founding, they've had at least ~2-3 thousand years to establish themselves. Why do they only have 6 brotherhoods? Have they been recently decimated? Do they maintain 6 brotherhoods of ~150 marines instead of the usual ~100? If this is the case is there a reason for 6 large companies?

 

What sort of people do they recruit from? This can really help shape the character of your chapter. In what ways have the recruits' outlook on life, love and warfare influenced the chapter?

 

Do they have normal relations with the other forces of the Imperium, if not why not?

 

-J-

[Phoros]

Insignia: red and iron recolor of White Scars chapter icon ( current red = iron, current gold = red)

Can't help but think that the red wouldn't be too apparent on the red shoulder pad background - maybe pick a third colour as a spot colour?