AngelVeto Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Ok, so when I started this hobby back up I decided to use ebay and friends to supplement buying an army straight up. One of my friends gave me his Vindicator he got for his chaos army he never played. The eight pointed star from the front popped off just fine, but the Chaos icon he put over the Aquila is proving quite a bit more difficult, and as I don't want to damage the Symbol of our glorious Imperium I was hoping you guys might have tips on how to break it down with out damaging the plastic. I've broken a few of the bonds on the body and so just started giving it an LA's Totally Awesome bath, but some superglue bonds don't break down in it, and so I'm hoping you guys might have tips on how to purge the rest of the traitorous stigma from my Glorious Vindicator Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262399-breaking-down-super-glue-bonds/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverike_prime Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Thats a tough one. Superglue, once cured, is pretty resilient and everything I can think of would probably damage the plastic before it damaged the superglue. That being said super glue and plastic aren't terribly great bed fellows and nine out of ten times a part that is attached to plastic via super glue can simply be popped off with minimal damage to the plastic part. Couple ideas: 1) Try using Acetone nail polish remover IN VERY SMALL QUANTITIES!!!!! Do not submerge the kit in the stuff. The acetone will break down the plastic given sufficient time. I would take a small quantity of the polish remover and using an eye dropper or perhaps even the head of a pin put 2-3 drops of remover on top of the glue you're trying to break at a time. Let it sit for about an hour and see if the bond has weakened enough to pop the part off. If not, repeat. Obviously this is going to be extremely tedious, but such is the price for 2nd hand models. 2) you can try prying the chaos star up using the edge of a hobby blade. Work the edge of the blade in under the edge of the star and slowing work the blade back and forth along the long axis of the blade in a perpendicular direction to the part. Go slowly and be very careful. Don't try to take the entire star off in one go. Good luck with it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262399-breaking-down-super-glue-bonds/#findComment-3196147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razblood Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Try freezing it off, super glue can become quite brittle at below freezing ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262399-breaking-down-super-glue-bonds/#findComment-3196177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 ^^ what he said :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262399-breaking-down-super-glue-bonds/#findComment-3196375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterdyne Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 If he's used superglue to attach stuff like that, chances are he didn't clean the plastic. This gives you an opportunity; submerge the model in an all-pupose cleaner with a high proportion of non-ionic surfactants (most 'concentrated' floor cleaners, like 'Flash' or 'Simple Green'). Let it soak for some time (a few days) and agitate it where possible. The cleaner should attack the grease between the bonds and work its way through, weakening the bond significantly. I believe BioStrip works well too if I remember rightly (not used it myself). Acetone and other chemicals that attack the superglue itself will also attack the plastic. Freezing the model will make the glue brittle, but also the plastic. Chance of snapping something goes right up. Works well for metals though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262399-breaking-down-super-glue-bonds/#findComment-3196380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 If he's used superglue to attach stuff like that, chances are he didn't clean the plastic. This gives you an opportunity; submerge the model in an all-pupose cleaner with a high proportion of non-ionic surfactants (most 'concentrated' floor cleaners, like 'Flash' or 'Simple Green'). Let it soak for some time (a few days) and agitate it where possible. The cleaner should attack the grease between the bonds and work its way through, weakening the bond significantly. I believe BioStrip works well too if I remember rightly (not used it myself). Acetone and other chemicals that attack the superglue itself will also attack the plastic. Freezing the model will make the glue brittle, but also the plastic. Chance of snapping something goes right up. Works well for metals though. I once purchased a block of Space Marines on ebay that had been immorally treated (both with paint and glue) but I submerged them in Simple Green for a month (I may have forgotten about them once or twice) and them feel to pieces with the glue off and the paint a sludge that washed off perfectly. Sure it took time but it worked without other flaws. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262399-breaking-down-super-glue-bonds/#findComment-3196483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garath Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Water warmed up to 80-90 degrees celsius- the pieces of super glue will start to slowly break apart Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262399-breaking-down-super-glue-bonds/#findComment-3196661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatGrinder Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I find some of the paint strippers I use make a mess of SG bonds. Simple green and sometimes fairy power spray. But in fairness, just scrape it off and pop on something else there and forget about the eagle. Its probably the easiest way without risking damage to the rest of the model. Id reccoment about heating the plastic, it might warp as it expands. And there is a possibility that none of the above might work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262399-breaking-down-super-glue-bonds/#findComment-3196869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pueriexdeus Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I use a product called UN-CURE. Some Hobby shops carry it or you can find it here. For reference the original makers of "Super Glue" have a Acetone remover tutorial here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262399-breaking-down-super-glue-bonds/#findComment-3197684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 For reference the original makers of "Super Glue" have a Acetone remover tutorial here. Yeah, but the acetone can eat your plastic hull. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262399-breaking-down-super-glue-bonds/#findComment-3197776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironblood Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 like pueriexdeus stated there are super glue debonders. I've used several over the years, they take a bit of time to work but they turn the super glue soft and gummy sorta and allows you to pick the glue off with minimal damage to the model. just be sure to test the one you use on a spair part before slathing the area in it, not all chemicals are created equal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262399-breaking-down-super-glue-bonds/#findComment-3197858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Not sure which side of the pond you're on, but I've noticed that when I give a Mean Green bath to minis that are still glued, the bath sems to weaken the hold a little, just enough to pop it off without damage. Worth a thought, man. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262399-breaking-down-super-glue-bonds/#findComment-3197871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellChyld Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 i'll back biohazard and heathens. I normally give ebay models a mean green bath then put them in the freezer for a bit. with using the two havent had any plastic breakage and the superglue normal becomes brittle making for easy removal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262399-breaking-down-super-glue-bonds/#findComment-3200175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhg033 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 this thread couldnt have come at a better time as i have to rectify some ebay bikes i've had sitting around. will test out freezing and see if fairy power spray does the trick. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262399-breaking-down-super-glue-bonds/#findComment-3201374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhg033 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 freezer definately helps. managed to pop apart most of a bike that was liberally glued. not sue on the effectivenes of powerspray - admitedly i only left it around an hour. a couple of parts came apart however it could just be that i put a bit more force in. i scrubbbed the areas that had 'mounds' of glue with a toothbrush and it may have helped a bit. will try a longer bath another time, i had bought this to do some paint stripping - yet to try it for that though. note on the powerspray - read the instructions. its not a plesant set of chemicals so be careful if you try it out and rinse the models very well afterwards Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262399-breaking-down-super-glue-bonds/#findComment-3201897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannus Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Try multi-tasking: Use Easy-Off oven cleaner to strip the paint and break down the Super Glue at the same time. As an added plus, it won't eat your plastic either. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262399-breaking-down-super-glue-bonds/#findComment-3202910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Only an hour? No sir. I keep mine in for at least 24 hours, minimum. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262399-breaking-down-super-glue-bonds/#findComment-3202988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus-Alaska Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I use this, it works crazy good. most of my minis are Ebay buys that I have to disassemble. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262399-breaking-down-super-glue-bonds/#findComment-3203243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhg033 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Only an hour? No sir. I keep mine in for at least 24 hours, minimum. what can i say - i'm impatient :) i have a load more to resurect so will try for longer with these if i get a chance. furioso-prime, ta for that link, may give it a go! at some point, if i can visit my mums, i'll digg out my 2nd edition chaos army and strip them down for repainting Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262399-breaking-down-super-glue-bonds/#findComment-3203297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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