John_f Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Now with all the possibillities to take MoN, plague marines are not the obvious choise. We can also take regular csm and chosen with MoN. Question is if a plague marine is worth 24p when a regular csm is 13 + 3 for MoN? FnP is awesome but you are also facing I3. There are also the chosen that can take MoN What are your thoughts on this? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262616-how-do-we-build-t5/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Plague Marines are also Fearless, have poisoned close combat attacks (4+), a bolter, 2 cc weapons, and defensive grenades. Factor in all that and PMs are far and away superior to Nurgle-marked marines for cost. I don't want my warriors to be swept, ever, and between their poisoned weapons and FnP Plague Marines care capable of taking on just about anything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262616-how-do-we-build-t5/#findComment-3199234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Concur with whythre - it's also seven times more fluffy, and who wouldn't want that?! I'd rather pay a few more points more to overall, have the better chance of destroying all in my path. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262616-how-do-we-build-t5/#findComment-3199242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sersi Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 MON CSM are definitely worth it. Not being fearless can make better objective campers as the can still go to ground. Plus a couple of cheaper squads, allows for more PM. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262616-how-do-we-build-t5/#findComment-3199252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Dave Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I'm feeling like our T5 options are best on other units, not non-PM troop selections. Consider Chosen--our previous codex had us pay 50 points for T 4(5), now, on a fluffy squad of 7, it's 14 points! Yes, we lost the deep strike non-scattering, but ... man, that's a discount. And, not that we took them before, but Havocs see the same reductions. On Terminators, a squad of 5 got a 10 point reduction for MoN, and on a cheap squad of 3 you're paying a mere 18 points. Lords and Sorcs get marked 5 points cheaper, as do Daemon Princes. Then, considering our T6 (!) options, that 3-man biker squad I always wanted to run, but never did, will only pay 18 points for MoN instead of 50, and the same cost will apply to 3 Oblits, or Spawn. This is a very different codex for marked units, it seems. Mark up everything! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262616-how-do-we-build-t5/#findComment-3199825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Marks gunna mark! No reason not too any longer - hoping it lends itself to more themed armies... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262616-how-do-we-build-t5/#findComment-3200179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelanen Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Plague Marines are also Fearless, have poisoned close combat attacks (4+), a bolter, 2 cc weapons, and defensive grenades. Factor in all that and PMs are far and away superior to Nurgle-marked marines for cost. I don't want my warriors to be swept, ever, and between their poisoned weapons and FnP Plague Marines care capable of taking on just about anything. This. Plagues give far and away more bang for their buck, not to mention that you get 2 specials at 5, and that's where all their damage potential is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262616-how-do-we-build-t5/#findComment-3228759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paraelix Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Pondering a unit of 7 Nurgle Chosen in a Rhino with 5 Flamers at higher points... About 165pts + Rhino... And their worth goes through the roof with an Epi list as you'll eventually get Flamers that ignore armour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262616-how-do-we-build-t5/#findComment-3228843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreyonar Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 flamers with tally would be devestating, but flamers won't make the tally grow when you fight marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262616-how-do-we-build-t5/#findComment-3229229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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