Killax Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 3-4 Is the perfect size. The only advice I want to give is that you do need enough shooting support in order to do this. Cheers, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262630-juggernaught-lord-need-advice-asap/page/2/#findComment-3207785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Given that they have no armour save outside of combat, I'd be inclined to take at least 4. Hell, a unit of 5 is still only 150pts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262630-juggernaught-lord-need-advice-asap/page/2/#findComment-3208449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Given that they have no armour save outside of combat, I'd be inclined to take at least 4. Hell, a unit of 5 is still only 150pts. 3W and no save have just as much survivability as 1W im power armour(not counting bad/good luck ofc), so that's 150p for five guys with T5 and power armour...when looking at their survivability that is... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262630-juggernaught-lord-need-advice-asap/page/2/#findComment-3208605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Our father Khorne demands eight, does the new dex support this? If not then damn that tome! I'll pick one up in a few weeks, cashflow issues :lol: s Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262630-juggernaught-lord-need-advice-asap/page/2/#findComment-3208696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Our father Khorne demands eight, does the new dex support this? If not then damn that tome! I'll pick one up in a few weeks, cashflow issues ;) s Well 4 should be enough, 8 is a lot of points xD, however it's not like you have to thake them. It's cool for conversion purposes and Lord-n-da-Dogs feelings. Cheers, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262630-juggernaught-lord-need-advice-asap/page/2/#findComment-3209205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Given that they have no armour save outside of combat, I'd be inclined to take at least 4. Hell, a unit of 5 is still only 150pts. 3W and no save have just as much survivability as 1W im power armour(not counting bad/good luck ofc), so that's 150p for five guys with T5 and power armour...when looking at their survivability that is... No, they're not the most survivable models on the board (though they're a little better against things like lascannons, etc.). Never said they were. Their main benefit is that they're as fast as a Lord on Juggernaut. That said, so are bikes and raptors, and those also have special weapons options... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262630-juggernaught-lord-need-advice-asap/page/2/#findComment-3209369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redemption2994 Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 Im working out the plans now as I have a tournament coming up. I have 5 Dogs and Karanak atm to play around with. Being T5, they are far more resilient to small arms fire. And Lascannons won't double tough them either. Would the overall cost of a killy Cav Lord and the Dogs outweigh their usefulness? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262630-juggernaught-lord-need-advice-asap/page/2/#findComment-3209782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 I think model size would be more of an issue; Chaos Spawn are significantly larger (and are on larger bases) than Flesh Hounds. I can't imagine a TO letting it fly without coming to some compromise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262630-juggernaught-lord-need-advice-asap/page/2/#findComment-3210164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redemption2994 Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 It isn't a GW tournament, and I've been told theyre decent about proxies. I decided I'll prolly field him in casual games. I actually want to make a new rider for my Juggernaught. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262630-juggernaught-lord-need-advice-asap/page/2/#findComment-3210857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Bikes are not necessarily as good a bodyguard as spawns; if your opponent choses to focus fire, your only model with no cover save might very well be your lord (since all bikes have 4+ or 5+ jink cover save and cavalry models don't) and can thus be singled out very easily... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262630-juggernaught-lord-need-advice-asap/page/2/#findComment-3210891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 It isn't a GW tournament, and I've been told theyre decent about proxies. I decided I'll prolly field him in casual games. I actually want to make a new rider for my Juggernaught. Doesn't really matter if it's a GW tournament (how many of them even exist any more?), it's more an issue of the organiser being cool with that level of proxy, given the huge size discrepancy between the models. I'd shoot him an email before the event if you're still considering doing it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262630-juggernaught-lord-need-advice-asap/page/2/#findComment-3211750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attomsk Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Are juggernauts relatively the same size as chaos spawn? The bases appear to be the same size. Khorne Lord on a jugg + jugg spawn would just be the coolest unit on the tabletop. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262630-juggernaught-lord-need-advice-asap/page/2/#findComment-3212316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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