Blackmonkey0 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Well the new dex has scuppered the Helbrute and Chaos dreads for me. No Smoke Launchers. No Marks. On the positive side the Crazed rules are playable and as a whole they are cheap. So is anyone going to use them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262731-helbrute/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Well, I've had two of them for ages and I played them occasionally with the old codex. All they had to do was not be worse than the last one and it guaranteed they'd see a few games between now and whatever happens when 7th edition comes out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262731-helbrute/#findComment-3200567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minionboy Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Honestly, for the points they're not terrible, you just need to make sure that they aren't competing with better choices in your list. I prefer to run mine with Reaper Autocannons and Power Scourges. For 120 points it's going to offer some decent ranged shooting and turn into a pain in the neck in combat. I would stay away from pure combat equipped ones, because the maulerfiend is much more effective for only a few points more. Shooting ones are okay (Reaper + Missiles), but I think you can get a better cost efficiency by using havocs instead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262731-helbrute/#findComment-3201346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I've mentioned before that I think they pair well with either type of fiend as a more balanced support unit. I think reaper might be the best overall choice but I am tempted by the lascannon. Its much more expensive but you do get the range, S and AP boost. I'm torn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262731-helbrute/#findComment-3201404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Whoa I actually hadn't noticed the lack of smoke launchers. That sucks. I'd really like to convert a dread, so I'm toying with the idea of a plasma/scourge helbrute, but I wouldn't expect great things from it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262731-helbrute/#findComment-3201588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkOne Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 maaaan... they`re not even daemonically posessed... better for the ws and bs, craptacular with no smoke launchers and no 5++ demon save... if only the heavy flamers were cheaper, i`d run double fist, double flamer like my ork dreads... as it stands, they`re neat, and everyone with a dark vengance box has a cool model to paint, but i don`t see them making it into many lists... on the cover topic, they`re fairly small profile, shouldn`t be hard to obscure 25% with infantry... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262731-helbrute/#findComment-3201597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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